Recursive authentication

2 years ago by qaz to c/memes

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VikingHippie 85 points 2 years ago

Fun fact: when my country transitioned to a new public authentication app, the default way was to use your passport to register. My passport was expired, though, so I had to show up in person with my birth certificate and social security card equivalent.

To get my birth certificate, I had to show up at the local office with, you guessed it, my passport.

Lucky for me that they accepted it in spite of being expired (none of the pertinent information such as my face, name and birth date had expired, after all), or I would probably be trapped in the loop to this day, years later.

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Bumblefumble 29 points 2 years ago

Ohh, that reminds me of when I moved to Sweden. Their digital ID, bankID, is as the name suggests issued by your bank, not the government, even though it is used for all official authentication. And that includes... you guessed it, creating a bank account. So that was a real chicken and egg situation where it seemed impossible to be properly integrated into the Swedish system.

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Sprokes 18 points 2 years ago

I think you have the situation everywhere. At one time in France they ask you for your bank account details to see that you have funds so that they give an ID. But the bank will refuse to open you an account without an ID. So it will depend on the agent handling your request.

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CurlyMoustache 7 points 2 years ago

Reminds me of the first days of BankID here in Norway. To get my new BankID to work with my current bank, I had to log in with, you guessed it, a BankID allready configured to my bank. Took a few weeks talking to the bank, showing up in person and queueing with others with the same problem before the bank realized they've made a mistake somewhere

Same happened when the code thingy the bank sent me ran out of batteries. I went to the bank and asked for a new one. Not possible, they said. I had to contact the main branch, and they would send me new one. It would only take one week or so. I had to pay a bill that day, and asked if I could open it to replace the batteries since there was visible screw with ordinary heads. They said that was illegal and hacking, and that I must replace it. On my way home I opened it, and bought the exact same batteries from a shop, and replaced them. Worked perfectly!

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liquidparasyte 7 points 2 years ago

Why do y'all in Europe have your bank manage your legal ID? Seems a bit backwards

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VikingHippie 6 points 2 years ago

Hi neighbor! waves across Øresund

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Scandinavian style government (unlike the current governments of both of our countries, it would seem) in general, but sometimes the bureaucracy can get a little bit ridiculous 😂

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Baku 1 point 2 years ago
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DillyDaily 5 points 2 years ago

This is why I currently have no proper ID.

I have my birth certificate and my public healthcare card, and a not expired but no longer fully accepted proof of age card that previously counted as full ID but no longer does, but without it I dont have enough ID to get the new form of ID the government introduced in place of the old one I have.

It's enough to prove who I am at a liquor store or chemist, day to day, but I can't get a passport until I sort it out.

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MisterFrog 1 point 2 years ago

When did they remove proof of age cards? (Vic or SA?)

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