German train strike could cost €1 billion

2 years ago by Lee Duna to c/europe

First a three-day strike at the beginning of January, now an unprecedented six-day strike: German train drivers' actions will hit companies, ports and consumers alike. But what are the actual consequences?
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KISSmyOS 132 points 2 years ago

Huh, sounds like it would have been cheaper to meet the train drivers with a decent wage offer.

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letmesleep 27 points 2 years ago

Firstly, the main issue isn't money it's working hours.

But even if it were only about money, it wouldn't really work like that. The strike costs Germany about a billion in GDP. But only a fraction of that is paid for by Deutsche Bahn (the railway company). The losses mostly stem from people and goods becoming less mobile. Deutsche Bahn only loses some income from tickets which is nowhere near that much.

In the end allowing strikes in critical infrastructure isn't a good idea. Germany has a pretty good solution for that, it's about making people "Beamte"/officers. These are a special sort of civil servant that will essentially get court martialed for striking but Beamte are also practically unfirable and the constitution (and if it comes to it, the courts) ensures that they get adequate wages.

When Deutsche Bahn was an institution instead of a private company owned by the state Deutsche Bahn employees were (almost?) all Beamte. Some older ones still are (as I said, they can't be fired) and that's one of the reasons why some trains are still running. We need to get back to that or at least some rules that mimic the approach.

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branchial 29 points 2 years ago

Any worker has the right to strike. If what is affected is critical infrastructure then the government has to step in on the side of the workers to force a settlement.

Just because you want unlimited flow of treats does not mean laborers should not be able to fight for better working conditions

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tryptaminev 29 points 2 years ago

To add to the absurdity of it, when the leaders of the Bahn announced first that the demand fo the traindrivers is inacceptable as their is no money available, they just had increased their salaries by millions.

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KISSmyOS 25 points 2 years ago

Beamte can effectively strike, too. It's called Dienst nach Vorschrift (duty by the letter).
They follow every regulation to the letter, which grinds everything to a halt, and there's hardly anything anyone can do about it since they're unfirable.
To counter that, the state just pays them well enough so they don't need to strike.

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Anekdoteles -5 points 2 years ago

To this day that company never healed from the Beamtentum and never will. Beamte are a horrible solution to anything and should only be a last resort, e.g. for the critical part of infrastructure as the railroad network. Not for the garbage companies operating on it.

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pleb_maximus 25 points 2 years ago

Or at least make them an offer you can actually discuss about instead of trying to defraud them.

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RedPandaRaider 17 points 2 years ago

And potentially cause growing class consciousness? Never, better not give those dirty labourers anything worthwhile.

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WallEx 12 points 2 years ago

Or any offer, that wasnt just to then go "oh look, they are AT fault, they didnt accept" ... If you look at the actual offer youll see that they were totally in the right to decline

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lichtmetzger 11 points 2 years ago

But it's easier to go to the big media outlets and tell the workers "We have to be prepared to work harder and harder again" and "You also have to sweat", like the bosses of the biggest German bank, Bosch and our finance minister did.

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I believe the liberals are really afraid of a wave of people realizing that working less for the same amount of money is an option. When the train drivers get their 35 hour work week without any pay cuts, there will be more people also taking a liking to that idea. Worst nightmare of the upper class.

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KISSmyOS 14 points 2 years ago

The worst nightmare for them would be to realize that striking is the mildest form of worker protest.
Imagine if 50% of all train drivers quit on the same day, then reapplied a month later demanding 50% more pay.
And when they're rehired, they tell the other drivers how much they now make.

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gapbetweenus 7 points 2 years ago

Can someone calculate? I would be curious, but I'm also lazy.

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letmesleep 2 points 2 years ago

It's not that easy to calculate, especially since the 1 billion is about GDP losses, not losses in ticket sales.

I'm also lazy, but I'm willing to bet that the company loses less than 400M. After all the billion is for total costs is alreay on the high end. There are estiomates for a round a third. The unions demands amount to some 10k in costs per member (that's not what they'd get in hourly wage increases, but what the changes would cost). The union has some 40k members. So we'd be talking about some extra 4 billion. I.e. they'd have to strike for months to make it worth it. Now, not all those members are active, but if they get too much the other (bigger) union will demand more and so on.

For the country it's a vastly different story. If this were paid for by taxes and increasing GDP were the goal you'd most definitley not budge even slightly on the union's main demand (shorter working hours) since there's already a shortage in that area, but there'd be much more generious offers regarding wages. I.e. something like not a cent more for anyone working under 37 hours, but 50% more for people working 40+.

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