17-year-old shot and killed by officer conducting welfare check

3 years ago by ZeroCool to c/news

A teenager was shot and killed by a police officer responding to a residence in Nebraska to conduct a welfare check, state police said.
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Milk_Sheikh 93 points 3 years ago

I’ll say it again and again, before you call the cops for anything, you need to remember what you’re actually doing. You are willingly inviting an armed person, who will not lose a fight or back down, who is shielded from legal consequences, into your situation.

Grandpa isn’t answering his phone or the door and you’re worried? Call a locksmith, not the cops. Cops will just kick the door or call the locksmith anyway, now you have extra problems

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Shyfer 71 points 3 years ago

That's what defund the police is about. It's about shifting the funding to other sources, social workers and such, that can handle calls like these. It relieves police of having to deal with stuff like this, too.

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saintshenanigans 39 points 3 years ago

Defund was a horrible fucking name for the movement though. We'd need the conservatives to be on board and they're not going for that shit cause they'll stop listening as soon as they think you're taking power away from their tastiest boots.

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tastysnacks 13 points 3 years ago

How about "Use the right tool for the job"?

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saintshenanigans 14 points 3 years ago

A gun is a tool, right? Universal problem-solver!

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korny 9 points 3 years ago

Freedom Funding For Police Pact ought to be about right for the right leaning crowd.

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madcaesar 8 points 3 years ago

Democrats fucking SUCK ASS at slogans... So many good ideas ruined by inept marketing.

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Tinidril 6 points 3 years ago

True, but not so much in this case. It was BLM, not the Democrats, and most Democrats rejected it. Biden even increased police funding in response.

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FordBeeblebrox 6 points 3 years ago

Or shunting off good candidates. Bernie has been talking truth for fucking 50 years but no nomination. There’s no central talking head, no real stated goal…

I vote blue but fuck me they suck at rallying voters to a cause

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Shyfer 4 points 3 years ago

Even I agree with that. And I was one of those annoying guys screaming ACAB and shit. I really wish that didn't end up becoming the main slogan, because I really agree with the idea behind it. It's like if pro-choice people were framing their own position as pro-killing babies on their signs and stuff.

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saintshenanigans 3 points 3 years ago

Honestly ACAB is another badly defined slogan.

The idea was that if only 10% of cops are actually "bad" and will hurt you, if the other 90% aren't reporting them and holding them accountable, you cant trust that ANY cop is part of that 90% because choosing wrong can end your life.

But then again you can't explain all of that in one word lol

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assassin_aragorn 3 points 3 years ago

Optics and phrasing matter. For as much criticism as Democrats get about being inept at it, ACAB and Defund show that the critics aren't a whole lot better.

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saintshenanigans 1 point 3 years ago

Arguably, the way people perceive your project is more important than what it actually does. Probably a combination of both dems being shit at optics and repugs having the most well oiled propaganda machine in the world, cause it keeps fucking happening.

Planned parenthood

BLM

ACAB

defund the police

Communist/socialist policies

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Potatos_are_not_friends 1 point 3 years ago

Hard disagree.

  • Police officers getting military equipment for free.

  • Police officers using gov funds to finance their own criminal activity in the name of "protecting the public"

  • Police officers committing crimes and the city pays the victims

  • Police officer unions protecting all bad apples. Insurance companies are struggling to reel them in. Cities are at their mercy.

Defund them. Make them pay for their own shit.

Because right now, they can absolutely fuck around with little consequences.

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saintshenanigans 7 points 3 years ago

I mean shifting responsibility over to social workers etc for some of their jobs rn will accomplish most of that, but yes, it's fucking insane how many war weapons they get to use on the people who literally pay for them, accountability definitely needs to be addressed as well

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psivchaz 5 points 3 years ago

He wasn't saying it was a bad idea, but that it was a bad name. You want to get something done in a democracy, you gotta get people on board. You want people on board, you gotta sell it.

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