Detecting vote manipulation or brigading (example)

3 years ago by Wander to c/meta

After reading this post here I took a deep dive into the database and ran a few queries to see if I could use it to detect some basic manipulation such as brigading or other types of persistent hostile behavior.

I'd describe this as people who could have blocked a certain community but instead seemingly dedicate themselves to continuously downvote posts, maybe because they don't like furry stuff in general.

Each line in the image corresponds to one person and how many times they have downvoted posts in a given community.

I won't take any actions right now, this is all very experimental. I just wanted to share this with y'all to let you know that we admins have tools to give us clues about whether some sort of brigading is going on.

Interesting stuff. Personally, I'd urge people who don't like furry stuff to just block a community and carry on. There's nothing to be gained by obsessing yourself with stuff you don't like.

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Zeth0s 5 points 3 years ago

What action can you take? Your problem is that 99% of the population is repulsed by furry stuff, you'll always get tons of downvotes if your posts end up in the "all" feed. Because it is quick for users. Instead of checking who downvotes furry stuff because they dislike it, threatening ineffective "actions", you should ask lemmy devs for a way to avoid that your community to end up on "all" feed, similar to reddit where sub can opt out of r/all

Edit. I saw this post on the "all" feed that's why I am commenting

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AwoosWhenClose 8 points 3 years ago

I... Really don't understand why people would browse the "all" feed with NSFW filters disabled, it just doesn't seem to be a pleasent experience. There's much worse than a dog man with his dick out that'll be on that feed. Violence, gore, scat, extreme porn, politics and the full range of offensive comments. Or even, depending on who your instance federates with, stuff like loli and bestiality.

People browsing "all" should be willing and ready to blacklist communities that post things that they find objectionable, rather than deciding that the "all" feed should be automatically curated for their preferences.

Would be nice if there was a seperate "NSFW" toggle for the "all" feed, full instance blocks or even specific, blockable NSFW tags.

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Zeth0s 3 points 3 years ago

Tbf, in the current state of lemmy, everything is pretty vanilla with the exception of furry stuff. Once gore will become a thing on lemmy, I am pretty sure it is going to get downvoted as well, likely much more

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HubertManne 4 points 3 years ago

um no. its not just furry stuff. I have not blocked any furry stuff as its not that bad so far but I have blocked fuckevil, fuckbully, fuckfacist or something akin to that where the evil, bully, facist is what its all about despite the titles that would make you think otherwise. but with really disturbing porn.

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