What app is so useful, you can’t believe it’s free?

3 years ago by mastermind to c/asklemmy

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kibiz0r 61 points 3 years ago

Genuinely free? VSCode

Freemium: Discord

You pay with your data: Google Maps

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RGB3x3 32 points 3 years ago

If there's one service that I'm okay giving my data over for, it's Google maps.

Without that, we wouldn't have traffic data or how busy a business is. Crowd sourcing information is the only way to get a service as good as google maps. It's actually amazing to me that it's free given all of the satellite and street imaging done.

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geoma 21 points 3 years ago

I used to contribute to google maps. I had the same vision you do. But then I learned about their dark way of stealing people's data. All your contributions to google maps are now property of google. You are giving away your efforts so one of the richest world companies becomes richer. And keep abusing their users. So now I use openstreetmap.org

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PeterPoopshit 20 points 3 years ago

Yeah why the fuck is that? VSCode has no business being as good as it is. It's developed by Microsoft, after all. Are they planning to take it away from us and charge money for it in a few years? Why does it work on Linux so easily? Is it a government conspiracy to fill our brains with subliminal messages somehow? Wtf is the catch?

My best educated guess is that's it's a ploy of some kind. If Microsoft makes a free code editor that's really good, maybe no one will make a free open source one that's as good so that they will have control over the 1 most viable code editor? There are other things similar to VSCode but they cost money and are too big a pain to pirate because VSCode is better than them anyway.

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ralC 11 points 3 years ago

It's not only VSCode, it's also Github and C# and TypeScript to a lesser extent as well, probably. They want to have control over the "coding" ecosystem. And look at what they already did with github, they trained AI on all projects on it, and they then sell access to that AI.

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geoma 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 1271790 1274595 1282879, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
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kibiz0r 1 point 3 years ago

They learned their lesson with the old Visual Studio. Spending all of that money to maintain an IDE where the core 90% of it was no better than any open source or shareware alternative.

The only reasons people needed VS specifically were all features that could easily be turned into self-contained plugins.

And with everything turning into cloud services, there’s pretty much no point in trying to sell installable local apps that are impossible to fully DRM and have no justifiable subscription fees.

And when an enterprise goes to pick a cloud repo service, cloud code workspace, cloud hosting, devops system, AI development assistant, etc… Who are they gonna pick? Maybe the one from the same company that makes “that one app all our devs rave about”?

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phoukas 8 points 3 years ago

I feel like the Google maps algorithm has gotten worse over the last year or so. Maybe it's the Android auto interfacing with my car, but it sends me on weird routes sometimes even with a similar eta. I think it might be related to the eco settings but man is it annoying.

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geoma 5 points 3 years ago

Discord also makes you pay with your data.

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kibiz0r 2 points 3 years ago

Their privacy policy says they don’t sell your data.

Not that you should automatically trust any communication platform (present Lemmies excluded), but exchange of data for services is at least not the business model on paper.

In a sense, you still “are the product”, because people won’t buy Nitro if there’s noone to talk to.

But that’s different from like… tracking micro-motions of your mouse to categorize your personality traits and increase ad conversions.

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burndown 4 points 3 years ago

I thought Discord was pretty data hungry?

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