Why are we still fighting smartphone bloatware in 2025?

2 years ago by kirk781 to c/android

I was excited to dive into my new smartphone only to once again waste precious time uninstalling bloatware before I could enjoy it.
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Infomatics90 12 points 2 years ago

The problem is that most phones don't support ROM's like Graphene or Linage, as people installing custom roms is a relic of years past. Next time you get a phone, think about if you want this option for yourself. Also, do keep in mind that some phones have HW backdoors on them, so even installing a stock rom/graphene does not save you from privacy.

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humble_pete_digger 12 points 2 years ago

They made it very hard to install roms.

There is this orange warning on boot.

Then banking apps don't work.

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viking 1 point 2 years ago

With a rooted phone you can install Zygisk (magisk + zygote) and then a bunch of modules that simulate system integrity.

What you need are "play integrity fix" and "playcurl_NEXT".

The first module lets you bypass the google play integrity check, the second one will download updated integrity fingerprint files every 5 minutes to ensure that the bypass never fails.

If you know how to install custom ROMs, this part is not a big challenge.

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Cris16228 5 points 2 years ago

HW backdoors

Tell me more!

And lil papa google now forces GPlay Integrity so custom Roms are fucked

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humble_pete_digger 2 points 2 years ago

I'm gonna look into getting Huawei os

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Infomatics90 -1 points 2 years ago

Well its known that SoC's have backdoors on them. Usually it calls home to China, so you can guess what that's for.

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kirk781 2 points 2 years ago

That's true. Graphene is majorly Pixel limited, I guess. And even Lineage has a small set of devices when one considers the nos of OEMs and variants they manufacture per year.

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Rykzon 1 point 2 years ago

Even pixel or Fairphone is fairly free of bloatware compared to Samsung and shitty Chinese brands as long as you are not privacy paranoid about Google services.

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Infomatics90 5 points 2 years ago

I am privacy paranoid.

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