Diplomacy dies on live TV as Trump and Vance gang up to bully Ukraine leader

a year ago by MicroWave to c/world

US president said his horrific blow-up would make ‘great television’ – the White House has never seen anything like it

Summary

Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.

Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.

During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.

The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”

The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.

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blaggle42 134 points a year ago

I don't know exactly how to put this, but I feel personally embarrassed by this.

I think this is going to shift world order more than expected. Every country now must be nuclear. Trump is going to try to install himself as a dictator. I think violence will have to be the answer. Man it's depressing.

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Maggoty 25 points a year ago

I'm pissed. There was always a simple answer. Freeze the front line and make it clear to Putin that Ukraine is now their version of Taiwan. They could keep trying to attack but the Ukrainians are now backed by the full might of the American military. They can keep what they already have but anything else is a step too far.

Yeah it's possible Zelensky doesn't go for that deal but damn, they didn't even try for the simplest option that stops the fighting, gets the payments Trump so desperately wants and guarantees Ukraine's security. They literally just presented an extortion scheme as the only option, with "trust me bro" as the guarantee.

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unemployedclaquer 13 points a year ago

i bet their plan is to go into places already ravaged by the war, look for valuable mining opportunities, if not, trump branded fuckin cesspools. they don't even care if there ARE valuable mining deposits.

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MonkeMischief 4 points a year ago

And if, let's say he did go for it, they'd sell him out anyway. We freaking know it.

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LustyArgonianMana 16 points a year ago path: 0 15380085 15382854, hotness: undefined, score: 16, children: 1
Verat 2 points a year ago

Shame the cloudflare VPN wall doesnt let me sign it. It just loops a captcha at me that insta-fails.

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index -2 points a year ago

Every country now must be nuclear.

Unless you want a nuclear war NO country needs to be nuclear

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