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Regarding the “Rust” shooting.

3 years ago by SomeoneElse to c/dontyouknowwhoiam

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astral_avocado 83 points 3 years ago

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asdfasdfasdf 37 points 3 years ago

People are arguing that both are at fault. The armorer is most clearly responsible. However, more than one person can be responsible for something.

A common rule of thumb is to never point a gun at something you don't want to kill. This is pretty clear outside the realm of a movie studio. On a movie set, it also seems pretty clearly 100% on the side of the armorer since pointing a gun at someone is required for acting. But Baldwin pointed the gun for fun, so it's a major gray area for a lot of people.

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astral_avocado 6 points 3 years ago

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30mag 3 points 3 years ago

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REdOG 1 point 3 years ago

He was literally at work... He did it more for money than fun.

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rikudou -6 points 3 years ago

How is that a grey area? He never should've gotten a real gun on set, there's nothing grey.

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this_1_is_mine -10 points 3 years ago

" without absoult certainty do not point at what you are not willing to destroy........" which kind of defeats the idea if you dont for shure fully know without a doubt it wont do exactly that.

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SomeoneElse 26 points 3 years ago

Army dude gave his take on the topic. Random person replied questioning his qualifications to talk about the subject. Army dude explained why he was qualified; he has indeed taken a weapon safety class, he’s led an entire squadron in armed combat. That’s the “don’t you know who I am”.

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DragonTypeWyvern 6 points 3 years ago

Regardless of the failure of physical controls, no one seems to be noting that safety training is also not Baldwin's responsibility.

I certainly don't look at a rich old hyperlib and think "Yeah, he knows this 'prop gun' is just an actual gun." I don't look at Baldwin and even think "He knows not to point this at something he isn't willing to destroy."

I wouldn't assume he knows a single thing about guns I didn't directly tell him and have him repeat back to me.

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Katana314 -6 points 3 years ago

What armorer?

Alec Baldwin, as producer for the show in question, conducted that shoot without one on the set.

Thus why Baldwin is the one at fault for the shooting - and, funny enough, NOT because he was the one holding the trigger at the time it happened.

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WoahWoah 12 points 3 years ago

...what are you talking about? There was an armorer, Hannah Gutierrez, and she's being charged.

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