"Vote blue no matter who" was always projection

a year ago by Five to c/politicalmemes

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deddit 69 points a year ago

Okay, just hear me out for a second.... I completely agree they should endorse him, but rather than just saying they are irreverent (though this may actually be the case) I would like to know in clear and concise terms WHY they are waiting/failing to endorse the man whom was chosen by the people. I think knowing why they won't endorse him is very relevant to the discussion. Eith

TLDR; their silence is very telling.

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njm1314 33 points a year ago

I don't know about the rest of them, though I certainly have my suspicions, but with gillibrand it's very clearly just racism. That interview she gave was extremely telling.

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3abas 22 points a year ago

It's rich people. The reason is rich people.

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homesweethomeMrL 0 points a year ago path: 0 18005024 18005788 18010047, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 17
finitebanjo 21 points a year ago

They've given interviews. According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.

I agree with you, though, that they should endorse Mamdani. Any concerns about his type of socialism can be easily quelled with Mamdani's clear opposition to "communist countries".

Not endorsing Mamdani is just asking to split the vote and give Republicans the chance to fuck everything up.

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ReiRose 28 points a year ago

I don't like 'viability among gen pop'. It's like assessing his electability. Doesn't matter, he was chosen in a democratic primary vote. He's the democratic candidate for mayor. If they expect us to fall in line and vote blue, they need to fall in line and endorse blue.

Rich fucks

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pretzelz 13 points a year ago

Just looked up the bright blue square on Brooklyn - it's Borough Park: "home to one of the largest Orthodox Jewish communities outside Israel, with one of the largest concentrations of Jews in the United States"

Hmm! I don't think it's his policies they are against...

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troglodytis 12 points a year ago

That kind of reasoning makes sense to not endorse him in a run off.

But in the general election? He's got your party's nomination, so back your party. Your Cuomo boy got primaried, get over it. (Edit: the 'your' in this sentence applies to the party members listed in the OP, not the commenter and/or OP)

This is just money talking. Rich people don't like the ones that look like they won't bend to them. Hopefully he continues to not.

Also, this is yet another reason I don't associate with political parties. Super not a fan of them. It's the system we got, and I do vote with the dual party power structure in mind, but you'll never see me signed up in one.

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NickwithaC 6 points a year ago

That map makes New York look like a pelican rubbing its belly next to a rock.

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homesweethomeMrL -1 points a year ago

We're not talking about the mayor of Canon Beach, OR [randomly selected] with its cute chocolate shops, bed-and-breakfasts and small population. We're talking about going from state assembly advocate of the MTA to the whole shebang of one of the biggest concentrations of money and power in the world.

Admittedly, Eric Adams is the incumbent, so - wtf do I know. I'm all for Mamdani winning, I just think it's understandable to say "I'd prefer someone with more experience". That's not an excuse to shout him down, but I could understand not promoting him.

Plus - again, not a native New Yorker so wtf do I know - but I'd imagine someone who's publicly associated with what I'm guessing many people understand to be Muslim terrorism (I know that's not true, I'm saying many people think it is) would be difficult in most cities but in NY there's some reason it's an extra touchy subject.

According to them, Mamdani hasn't yet proven his viability among the general population, he only won a primary where 15% of the DNC participated with a plurality vote of 43%. Furthermore, some of them represent districts that hardlined against Mamdani such as neighborhoods in the southeastern part of Brooklyn. Mamdani won Brooklyn overall but the difference between neighborhoods he won and lost were very stark.

What they're really mad about is how badly the Democrats planned, thinking they'd waltz in past the wreckage of Adams with Cuomo and seeing how shit his campaign was. Now they're going to lose the SDNY office leverage they had AND get painted as radical leftist tankies AND lose the moderate votes.

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Bytemeister 5 points a year ago

My first thought is; do these people normally endorse Mayoral candidates?

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njm1314 11 points a year ago

For NYC? Of course they do. Not a small town in Suburbia friend, this is the biggest city in the country. The mayor of New York is more important and more powerful than a good amount of Governors.

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wheezy 4 points a year ago

Honestly, I don't want their endorsement. Fuck em. This party is getting taken over by the left or we're burning it down.

I think they see the inevitable rise of fascism and don't want to get grabbed by Trump's brown shirts. They're liberals that are being scratched and looking for a safe place in the future.

They didn't even do their typical. "Oh we're against the bombing of Iran but because he didn't go through Congress". I literally was waiting to roll my eyes at all their liberal "following procedure for our war crimes" but they even stayed quiet about it mostly.

We had two parties. Fascist and Liberals. Now we just have fascist and Liberals looking for a safe place in the new power structures. They're kind of confused I think. A little caught off guard with how much Trump is following through on actual policy. They're use to both parties lying and giving working class dollars to the rich. The conservatives are no longer playing the game of politics they all use to love that got nothing done.

Fuck the party leaders and most of these shits in Washington. They have no place now. We don't need their endorsement.

We can win with the momentum. We don't need to win power back through votes. We just need to give this countries people enough hope to build class consciousness. Decades can happen it weeks.

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