US Government Gives Elon Musk Permission to Detonate Rockets Over a Sacred Hawaian Island

a year ago by Tony Bark to c/world

After polluting a sacred beach in Texas, Elon Musk's SpaceX is now seeking to wreak havoc on another holy site in Hawaii.
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rc__buggy -67 points a year ago

a remote and uninhabited island located 400 miles from Honolulu

Mokumanamana sits at the boundary between "'pō,' the darkness, and 'au,' the light." When a Native Hawaiian dies, their soul travels up near Mokumanamana, and after meeting their ancestors there, they potentially get to advance into the great beyond with them in the dark waters west of the island.

okey-doke.

So, uninhabited (at this point means not viable for habitation) and it's a religious site that probably no one goes on a pilgrimage to? Fuckit.

edit: so the people using the downvote button as a disagree button:

What's the problem? If we are going to do this space shit we need places to drop the litter, what's wrong with this place? Is it just because it's Musk and Trump? I'm no fan of either but wouldn't it be better to have this SpaceX trash out in the Pacific instead of off the coast of South Texas where millions of US and Mexican citizens live?

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Zaktor 10 points a year ago

Uninhabited islands are not uninhabitable and the only value of a place is not whether people can live on it. The northwestern Hawaiian islands are a marine sanctuary valued even though barely anyone goes there. This argument is like saying the deep Everglades are unexploited, so we might as well dump our trash there.

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rc__buggy -3 points a year ago

What the fuck? They are literally dumping this shit in the Gulf of Mexico RIGHT NOW.

Why is this shitty little island out in the middle of nowhere a problem?!

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Zaktor 2 points a year ago

You are steadfastly dedicated to not getting the point while simultaneously whining about downvotes. Have an angry day where you think everyone else is the problem.

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rc__buggy -2 points a year ago

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SHITTY LITTLE ISLAND?

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Capybara_mdp 4 points a year ago

Okay, so let’s put it this way. If the federal govt decided that people could take dumps in Your grandparents garage without asking, you would protest right? And if they said “well, your grandparents don’t live in The house so it shouldn’t be a problem”- it’d be a problem right? And then someone posts the article on here and someone types out a defense “yeah but it’s a garage, its uninhabitable” and then later “WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS SHITTY LITTLE ISLAND?” …. You’re getting this right?

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rc__buggy -2 points a year ago

Cool. Who's garage do we shit in then?

Because if we're going to shit in a garage we need a garage to shit in. So is that garage in South Texas or out in The Pacific?

basically, no one has stated why this place is not a good place but the Gulf of Mexico is what we're using now so... just keep using it?

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Zaktor 3 points a year ago

The Gulf of Mexico is also a bad place, but unfortunately it wasn't a marine monument and the residents there didn't fight to protect it. We in Hawaii care about this island because it's our responsibility and all of our islands are interconnected. You don't seem to know shit about the area or that scientists don't view SpaceX's reckless R&D as an unabashed good and then go up on your soapbox to act like you in your ignorance are the only rational mind.

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