RedPandaRaider 42 points a year ago

It's good that this kind of news is being shared sometimes.

Ukraine has the right to defend itself, but it still is a corrupt state and not a democracy. Even since before the invasion, they've banned political organisations and parties and heavily interfered with any anti-corruption efforts.

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randomname 52 points a year ago

Ukraine's status as a new democracy and the country's obvious path toward democratic freedom was exactly the major reason why Russia started the invasion of Ukraine in 2014. The Kremlin doesn't want Russians to see that there is an alternative, freer system than Moscow's autocratic government.

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RedPandaRaider -18 points a year ago

That is not reality.

2014 did not turn Ukraine into any more of a democracy. Ukraine has as previously switched between pro-Russian and pro-Western leaders. The 2014 revolution was simply an end to that with a pro-Western win (for now).
Russia invaded Crime and annexed it in 2014 without military conflict between the sides. The actual war between Russia and Ukraine started only 2022.
The reason for Russia's invasion had nothing to do with democracy and internal politics in Russia. The reasons were first maintaining their naval bases on Crime and with that possible domination of the Black Sea. Then not wanting a pro-Western government ruling in Ukraine, preferring a pro-Russian one. After the war started another goal of directly annexing eastern parts of Ukraine became a reason. Ukraine gave them a simple pre-text for this invasion and annexation of territories by militarily cracking down on protests that continued in Eastern Ukraine after the Maiden revolution.

The conflict has nothing to do with political systems or ideological. It's a conflict of spheres of influence and control over neighbouring countries.

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Hubi 24 points a year ago

Ukraine is still a democracy. There are varying degrees of freedom and stability obviously but the underlying system is there.

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RedPandaRaider -7 points a year ago

The revolution didn't magically wipe out oligarchs and corruption. Ukraine is still an oligarchy, not a democracy. Do we not remember that before Zelenskyy, there was Poroshenko, a literal oligarch?

We shouldn't whitewash history as it's happening, just because someone is on the right side.

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