Furries are cool

a year ago by Lena to c/microblogmemes

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CompassRed -2 points a year ago

I'm going to get a lot of hate for this, but for the majority of furries, their fandom is at least party sexual in nature with over 70% of furries reporting they they view furry porn. Personally, I find that disgusting and I feel that the furry community's constant need for validation detracts from the seriousness of LGBT issues at large. I may be wrong in my judgements, but the claim that furries are just people with a hobby is an attempt to sweep an inconvenient truth under the rug.

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SinAdjetivos 4 points a year ago

I may be wrong in my judgements

The issue is that you're conflating "furry sexuality" with beastiality when they come from very different places with very different outcomes and moral implications.

The short story is that humans at ~10yrs old start learning and coding for what features they find sexually attractive which happens to co-incide with the target audience for many anthropomorphic films/cartoons/etc. and so some small percentage start developing an aesthetic and/or sexual preference for animorphism which then creates a subculture that feeds back onto itself.

It's not "beastiality" it's "mickey mouse-iality". It's not a sexual attraction to animals, it does not result in harm to animals, it does not result in rape or consent violations from those unable to give consent. It's as close to beastiality as anime girls are.

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CompassRed 3 points a year ago

I understand the mechanics of it. I'm not conflating furry sexuality with bestiality. I am still repulsed by the attraction to anthropomorphic animals just as much as I am to the attraction to real animals - especially the furry art featuring non-human genitals. It's gross, it's weird, and it's a perversion of childhood themes that I would prefer not to be so public.

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SinAdjetivos -1 points a year ago

I'm not conflating furry sexuality with bestiality

You literally said in a comment further down:

I don't find porn in general disgusting. I find furry porn disgusting because it borders on bestiality.

It's perfectly valid for you to have the feelings of "It's gross, it's weird, and a perversion of my childhood themes. I don't like it, and I don't want to see it" because honestly; Same.

The problem comes when you start arguing that they need to be shoved into a closet in order to protect the children and the "real" LGBTQ individuals.

It becomes especially problematic when you start equivocating it to things that are actually harmful like beastiality and is no different than the "all gays are pedophiles" trope.

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CompassRed 1 point a year ago

Again. I'm not conflating the two. You quote me on explaining why I personally find it disgusting. Then you tell me it's okay for me to have that feeling. Great. We're on the same page.

The problem isn't conflating anthropomorphic animal porn with animal porn, it's conflating being a furry with sexual and gender identity.

Edit: I will also add that I'm not arguing we do anything to furries. If you look for my calls to action, I'm clearly just arguing that people need to admit it's a fetish community. I'm not saying we need to shove furries in the closet or make it illegal to be a furry. However, even if I did say that it would be difficult to argue it's the same as violating LGBT rights because sex and gender are central to a person's identity while being a furry is not.

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SinAdjetivos -1 points a year ago

sex and gender are central to a person's identity while being a furry is not.

Sex and gender are clearly central to your identity, just as much as 'furry' is central, sometimes exclusively, to other people's identity.

it's conflating being a furry with sexual and gender identity.

Who are you to define what is or isn't a legitimate sexual or gender identity? Identity is a personal and subjective thing. For many 'furry' is a gender and/or sexual identity and to say that it isn't is no different than arguing with a trans person about theirs.

The issue isn't that you are explicitly making some call to action, it's that you are othering and implicitly calling for the persecution of other people based entirely on your personal aesthetics.

Why are heterosexuality and homosexuality not 'just part of the fetish community'?

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convectionfusion 1 point a year ago

Why are heterosexuality and homosexuality not โ€˜just part of the fetish communityโ€™?

because people are born with these predilections, they don't buy them off of temu.

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SinAdjetivos 0 points a year ago

Predilections for certain features, what makes you so certain anthropomorphism isn't one of those predilections?

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convectionfusion 1 point a year ago

We see homosexuality in the wild. Sexual coercion in animals isn't cute or cuddly. Usually non consensual and violent to the point of fatality. This is not the premise you want to pursue unless you're embracing the beastiality premise of fursonas which I've been repeatedly assured is not their thing.

None of this helps your argument.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

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SinAdjetivos -1 points a year ago

You're miscategorizing it and anthropomorphs aren't real.

It's more closely related to objectophilia or fictosexuality which are also seen in nature.

It's to bestiality as homosexuality is to pedophilia. As in it's not related at all.

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