My Venezuelan friends say Maduro is a dictator

7 months ago by حمید پیام عباسی to c/memes

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transending_the_binary 63 points 7 months ago

He is an authoritarien and the country went to shit.

Venezuela is not a nice place to live in.

Maduro is a corrupt dictator, trump aswell and the current opposition to maduro most likely will just be an authoritarian and fascist pupped goverment that will act in the USAs interest. So yeah multible things can be true at once, just because a nation is opposed to the american empire does not mean that it is automaticallly good.

Its quite sad to see that some terminally online leftist just automaticly replace siding with the imperialist systems that there born into( USA, EU Australia etc.) And just replace that with other imperial powers like russia and china.

Like why?? How about not bootlicking authoritarians?

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ordnance_qf_17_pounder 44 points 7 months ago

Tell us what a non-authoritarian leader of Venezuela would look like to you and how they would resist the constant pressure and hostile actions of the US government, because it seems to me that leftist leaders are always denounced as authoritarian by North American and European based NGOs and governments.

The only way to avoid being labelled as authoritarian is to be friendly to the imperial core countries, i.e. being capitalist.

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davel 34 points 7 months ago

👆If you don’t suppress the inevitable imperial-supported bourgeois counterinsurgencies, your socialist project will go the way of Allende’s Chile.

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drmoose -23 points 7 months ago

What a loser-ass mentality. It's absolutely possible to remain just and free while being secure. Skill issue.

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m532 19 points 7 months ago

Just and free while being secure: "authoritarian"

Unjust and unfree while being insecure and overrun by bears: Libertarian

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h3rmit -9 points 7 months ago

So, which part is the just and free part that you mention, outside of the theory? As in, in detail, practical examples of those freedoms and justice, please. Besides the theoritscl "to each according to their needs, from each according to their possibilities" (sorry if misstranslated), what practical examples have been just and free throughout time.

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Cowbee 11 points 7 months ago

The USSR, PRC, Vietnam, Laos, DPRK, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. all were massive expansions on democracy and working class control. They were finally free and just for the working classes, and society became more about trying to satisfy everyone's needs than endless private profits, with public ownership as the principle aspect of their economies.

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drmoose -20 points 7 months ago

Or you can be smart and just and have your cake and eat it too. See dozens of countries that prosper without sacrificing their freedoms and justice. You guys are just doomer losers simping for dictators because your minds are too small to imagine a real victory.

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RiverRock 18 points 7 months ago

So name one

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frisbird 8 points 6 months ago

Venezuela has had US antagonistic covert ops operating in country since at least 2007. That's almost 2 decades of needing to find the US spies and their allies to prevent sabotage, coups, false flags, etc.

That's just the military aspect. They've also been under worsening sanctions for almost as long, which has been driven by the US strategy to starve the masses so that they revolt. This processes causes increased desperation among the people, which increases crime rates.

All of these things require the use of authority and as they get worse require more invasive and obvious uses of authority. It's hard enough to find spies, it's even harder to find spies and neutaize them without ripping the US off as to how you're finding them, going even further and finding spies without ever being wrong is nigh impossible.

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