Spotify subscriptions should be boycotted as if it were a US-based company

9 months ago by BoycottTwitter to c/buyeuropean

I was shocked to learn that Spotify was headquartered in Sweden. Until I read about Spotify and their CEO I had assumed they were based in America because to me they were just like all the other big tech companies in terms of lack of morals and ethics.

Spotify has a deal with Joe Rogan worth up to $250 million according to an article published in Variety. This was the deal that was signed in 2024. They've previously given Joe Rogan other very lucrative deals giving Rogan a massive platform and funding to spread disinformation, propaganda and lies and don't forget things like saying the N word.

So by using Spotify you're funding Joe Rogan who as we all know is based in America.

But that's not the only way your money was used to support the far-right in America. Spotify donated to Trump's inauguration. Do you want your money being used to bribe Trump?

In addition Spotify has also garnered controversy for allowing ICE recruitment ads and is already being boycotted by groups such as Indivisible.

Also let's talk about Daniel Ek who was until recently their CEO but will still be very involved with Spotify. Was he born in Sweden? Yes. But what are his values like? Are they different from American billionaires? "Daniel Ek warns Sweden that Spotify may be forced to grow elsewhere" hmmmm.... I kind of having a feeling that might be a no.

Another thing is I researched how many employees Spotify has in each country and multiple websites such as this one claimed they have the most in the United States. At the end of the day how much of a European company is Spotify if they just have their headquartes in Sweden and is from what I've read mostly used for executives and operations?

You know what they say "if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". I personally don't see any reason for treating Spotify different from all the US-based big tech companies but I'll admit at the end of the day it is true they are headquartered in the EU so I propose a compromise: use Spotify as much as you like as long as you're using the free version and using the website (not the app which has more ability to collect data and track you) with an ad blocker such as uBlock Origin. Cancel your subscriptions. When you cancel mention that you don't like your money being used to fund disinformation via paying Joe Rogan so much money.

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pinhead77 67 points 9 months ago

Besides the political aspects... The main reason why Spotify should be boycotted is the fact that they exploit artists (small and large artists receive virtually nothing for their streamed music) and flood the market with AI-generated music...

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pinhead77 27 points 9 months ago path: 0 21319989 21320343, hotness: undefined, score: 27, children: 11
verdi 1 point 9 months ago

As is deezer.

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pinhead77 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, but their payout is only slightly higher than Spotify...

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hendrik 2 points 9 months ago

I'm a bit skeptical about these "payouts" numbers. I've tried to look them up and find out why it is like that and where the money goes since they all have their monthly subscription priced similarly and they supposedly also take a similar share for running the infrastructure and pay their own staff... And it turns out all services are intransparent. There are no hard facts and numbers. It's massively complicated how they calculate these payouts and seems nobody publishes the exact maths behind it. There are some news articles with claims and speculation, but they're all based on the same thing and mainly copy-paste each other. Maybe Spotify is even amongst the most transparent services because they're traded at the stock exchange and do yearly reports... Anyhow, looks to me all this service XY pays Z per stream is one of those "simple truths" which might just be a lie.

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pinhead77 3 points 9 months ago

And it turns out all services are intransparent. There are no hard facts and numbers. Itโ€™s massively complicated how they calculate these payouts and seems nobody publishes the exact maths behind it.

Yes, it is indeed a problem that almost no one discloses official numbers. Qobuz at least did this once: https://community.qobuz.com/...

There are some news articles with claims and speculation, but theyโ€™re all based on the same thing and mainly copy-paste each other.

Yes, I agree with you! Of course, these articles and figures are not reliable. Here is an article with payout numbers, which also goes into more detail about how the numbers came about: https://dynamoi.com/...

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verdi 1 point 9 months ago

And no AI slop. That's two advantages. They also pay Europe centric artists more so that's a third advantage.

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gila 1 point 9 months ago

Here's an AI slop group on Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/en/artist/350313592

They might not have soundalike AI slop covers of music that's been pulled from their platform like Spotify does, but that's kinda putting the cart before the horse.

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pinhead77 1 point 9 months ago

Sure, they are an option, too!

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