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join 27 points 8 months ago

Make clear to the democratic machine that the only way to win power, is by including the left in their coalition. This means not voting for them if they don’t, but organizing and voting in primaries to try to force them to do.

This is not an imaginary track, this has worked in the past. If you have two oligarchic parties, you solve nothing by (only) voting for the least bad one.

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Godric 11 points 8 months ago

If anyone reading this wants to make this reality, RIGHT NOW is the time to be running or supporting someone who is. Drag the establishment kicking and screaming to the left by winning primaries.

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IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds 10 points 8 months ago

PRIMARIES TOO!!!

it isn't enough to yell at non progressive candidates,

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UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 8 months ago

PRIMARIES TOO!!!

The big mistake Leftists made was not voting in the 2024 Democratic Presidential Primary. Dean Phillips was electable if you'd voted for him.

The second biggest mistake Leftists made was turning out in the NYC Mayoral Election. You just cost yourself four years of a Golden Age under Andrew Cuomo, idiots.

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nexguy 0 points 8 months ago

So how about doing exactly what your said, primary better candidates... but in the mean time also not have the nazi in office crippling the nation for a few generations. Why handicap yourself?

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PaintedSnail -2 points 8 months ago

Then you will need to be aware that by not voting for the more left candidate, we will have a far right government for a couple of cycles at least. This will cost lives and further entrench them into power. It is why we have what we have right now. It will also drive left leaning candidates further right because they are going to cater to the people who actually vote. A far left candidate winning is still possible eventually, but it would require a major turnout at the primaries and a lot more damage is going to be done to a lot of innocent people in the mean time. Is this a cost you are willing to pay?

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DaMummy 3 points 8 months ago

So if we do something else, we would have what we have now? Have you considered that what we have now is because Democrats keep nominating terrible candidates? Why are you mad at paying the cost for what Democrats have been doing for decades?

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FunkyStuff 3 points 8 months ago

Then you will need to be aware that by not voting for the more left candidate, we will have a far right government for a couple of cycles at least. This will cost lives and further entrench them into power.

And yet when the moderate liberal candidate wins and nothing changes, the lesson most regular people learn is that liberals suck and the left gets lumped in with that because this strategy of always ceding ground to the liberals makes the left indistinguishable from libs. It also results in the genocide in Gaza and similar things in the future as climate collapse advances and the contradictions get sharper. So why is there a duty for the left to neuter itself, associate with liberals who actively oppose the socialist agenda, and be complicit in genocide with our tiny amount of power?

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null -5 points 8 months ago

the only way to win power is by including the left in their coalition

What percentage of eligible voters define themselves as "on the left" and did not vote Democrat in the general election due to Kamala not being left enough for them?

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FunkyStuff 1 point 8 months ago

Not enough people, that's why organizing on the ground is more important than electoral campaigns.

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