What kinds of things from reddit would you like to see Lemmy avoid as the user base grows?

3 years ago by gronapa to c/asklemmy

Personally I think not having karma limits is nice currently! I understand why they were used but grinding karma as a lurker on reddit was frustrating.

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JasSmith 15 points 3 years ago

Censorship. All the major subreddits became political echo-chambers. Reddit was founded on free speech and open discourse, especially when it was really uncomfortable. I'd love to see the same for Lemmy. Over the years I've seen authoritarianism creep into the moderation policies of most major subreddits. Today, even posting on the wrong subreddit is grounds for being banned from dozens of major subreddits. Even having a polite disagreement about, for example, anything to do with "trans," is grounds for being banned.

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dr_catman 26 points 3 years ago

So the one thing on Reddit that you wish to leave behind is mods deleting transphobic comments? Lol

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JasSmith 11 points 3 years ago

So the one thing on Reddit that you wish to leave behind is mods deleting transphobic comments? Lol

Would you please quote where I wrote that?

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nivenkos 16 points 3 years ago

That's the same here unfortunately.

It also sucks when you're not American, like Reddit auto-banned a load of Irish and Brits discussing stopping smoking due to the colloquial term there.

Unfortunately all these American-based websites really force the American views and positions on everyone.

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JasSmith 10 points 3 years ago

Well that explains it. I'm not American either and I really feel like I'm being forced into their weird social war. I just want to talk about cool gadgets without some culture warrior banning me everywhere because I didn't show the requisite fealty to whatever the current thing is.

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pingveno 5 points 3 years ago

Even having a polite disagreement about, for example, anything to do with “trans,” is grounds for being banned.

A subreddit I moderate, /r/moderatepolitics, has had to do a delicate balancing act around this. There are site-wide rules banning many statements around trans people, and the red lines are not well defined. Reddit's "Anti-Evil Operations" (site-wide moderation team) frequently swoops in and deletes comments that are offensive to trans people, but well within current political discourse in the US. That has undermined our mission of being a forum for diverse voices to hold productive but difficult discussions. At a certain point, we entirely banned the discussion of trans issues because one side was able to speak freely and the other side was walking on egg shells. I'm solidly pro-trans, but that's no way to have a conversation.

This likely was done to try to keep Reddit from becoming a cesspool like the "free speech" sites like Gab, but it has turned out to be a lazy way that short circuits necessary conversations.

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Sphere 3 points 3 years ago

There is only one necessary converation around trans people, in which trans people say, Let us exist without being harassed or persecuted, and everyone else says, OK. Anything else is just allowing bigots a platform.

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Synnikel 4 points 3 years ago

Anything to do with "trans"?

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JasSmith 2 points 3 years ago

I'm sorry I'm not sure how else to describe it. Trans people are those who believe their sex doesn't match how they feel inside.

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Cadende 4 points 3 years ago

No matter how politely stated your disagreement is, if it boils down to "I don't think I should have to respect trans people's identity"/"I don't think trans people should have rights" then it's transphobic and I'm 1000% fine with that being bannable

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firead 4 points 3 years ago

I think some people did take it too far, which seems to be a problem with a lot of social justice oriented communities, in particular people who are not part of a marginalized group making decisions to ban or otherwise censure your people on behalf of that group (I've seen it on both Reddit and Facebook in relation to trans and autistic people specifically).

That said, a lot of "polite disagreements" on Reddit really are/were transphobic, and even many questions were just bait to set the stage for anti-trans rhetoric, so I can see why it was easier for mods to come down heavy-handed.

The whole trend of "You are autobanned from subreddit X because you replied to a front page post from subreddit Y" did get extremely annoying though.

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CountryBreakfast 0 points 3 years ago

Go back to reddit

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gnuhaut -2 points 3 years ago

You were banned for transphobia but were jUsT AsKiNg qUestIons, amiright?

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Jinxyface 1 point 3 years ago

Turns out when people complain about being censored and "free speech" it's because they got in trouble for not being able to call people the N word or becasue they want to "politely discuss" why certain people shouldn't be allowed to exist.

We should never tolerate the intolerant.

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