Hey, I'm the editor/author. I may be overexaggerating the backlash a bit, likely because I spend so much time curating content for the newsletter each week that I'm constantly exposed to the worst-of-the-worst reactions.
I think some of the problem is the term vibe coding. If I want a small app to help something specific I used to look at it and go is it worth writing it for the return most of the time I was just too busy.
Now I sit down and write up a small document outlining what I want why I want it and the outcome typically I’d use AI then to review it and give any suggestions that I may not have thought of and use that for the seed for the application.
That is the document I use with an agent to actually do the code generation. I push that to a local GIT instance and the document lives with the code and then gets iterated overtime and then I typically use the issues list to add improvements and fixes to it again iterating through the issue before I think about letting an agent do it
To me vibecoding is just putting a sentence in and hoping for the best I like a little bit more structure than that.
Again, most of this is for personal use so I don’t share it widely a few friends have access to some of the stuff I’ve written because it helps them. I only ever released one AI first project on GitHub and I probably won’t go any further than that.
@sytone @selfhosted Hello, let me contribute with my 2 cents of experience in automated generation of code, I won't say "vibe coding" as it means nothing and marketing always uses meaningless words to make concepts more appealing.
I started it the last week of July and for my YunoHost based selfhost echosystem I'm building a multilingual framework for WordPress.
There are so many plugins, paid or free, for this CMS but I'm totally blind and most of them don't cover my accessibility needs. So, I'm experimenting AI use to create what I personally need. This on-demand code generation, lets me be self-determined on what I want, because I guide the machine with words. Text only. And it responds.
Am I a developer? No. Unfortunately I don't know how exact the code is, if something written in 10 lines could be managed just with two.
But I have something working for my own project, still in development in fact it's called MARS (Multilingual Accessible Rudimental System), used "rudimental" without hiding anything, to signal that it's not hardcoded by a very experienced dev. And chose the acronym "Mars" because this planet is the longest and most difficult human ambition, full of obstacle, exactly how my web experimentation journey is.
I can't deny I'm trying to study ways to share it with other devs, when it's ready, I have no ideas of dates and I won't ask for any money back, if it will ever be shared. But my most relevant thought is not to share it as I've got no first-hand verification on vulnerabilities.
Last but not least, I'd invite to read this article on blindness, AI, and also coding.
@elettrona thanks for the article. It provides a good alternative perspective on this space and what it can potentially do for different segments of our world.
I appreciate the share and glad to see you being able to use the capabilities AI currently brings to make your world better.
@sytone I am more than happy to contribute to the discussion; this is my first experience with on-demand code generation and believe me, if a coder has the frustration of a comma or a bracket missing in thousands of lines, I have the worst frustration when it tries to solve a bug and creates other 3.
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It's cool that he vibe coded something for his specific needs but the lamenting of being unable to share it because of the fear of a backlash is a bit premature. I wonder how long he (and others like him) will be able to keep his project going when he eventually adds more features that introduce more bugs and the effort/cost of maintaining the project becomes too much. We've already seen that for the majority of people vibe coding stuff, the answer is relatively quickly.
I've found interesting projects that have been vibe coded and seem to be well-maintained but I think vibe coded projects need at least 6 months to a year of history before they replace anything critical in my stack.
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