Salem Brought a Guillotine To Oppose New Data Center. Company Reps Left, Feeling “Unsafe”.

10 days ago by ViceroTempus to c/politics

Salem's city council voted unanimously to pursue a data center moratorium after residents - and a guillotine - pushed back on a $5.1 billion AI facility.

Someone brought a guillotine to a city council meeting in Salem, Oregon on July 27, 2026. Not a sign shaped like one. Not a drawing. According to community accounts and social media posts, an actual guillotine structure appeared at the protest outside Loucks Auditorium, where hundreds of residents had gathered to oppose a proposed multi-billion-dollar AI data center. Company representatives reportedly assessed the scene and left, citing safety concerns — though that detail hasn't appeared in formal news coverage or official minutes.

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 125 points 10 days ago

Violence is literally the only thing that works on the wealthy and the right wing. Don't even bother speaking.

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decolo 70 points 10 days ago

I believe the consensus is that a successful popular movement needs 3 elements:

  • a nonviolent protest movement to communicate and build support with the broader population
  • a political party to communicate and enable negotiations with the opposing group
  • a militant wing to provide a threat that incentivizes negotiations

Without the popular front, the political and militant groups will lose support of the population as well as their recruitment pipeline.

The political party can reduce the amount of violence and deprivation required to achieve objectives, by setting clear goals.

Without the militants, the opposing power already has a monopoly on violence and has no incentive to come to the table peacefully.

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SippyCup 34 points 10 days ago

Ethiopia managed to keep the British out with something very similar.

There was a bit of a snafu, and the British sent soldiers to accompany a diplomatic envoy.

The Ethiopians made a big show of marching soldiers around the British while the diplomats negotiated.

The message was clear "we are not interested in violence, we will however use it."

The British left. They managed to keep the Italians out by kicking their ass. Repeatedly.

Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that "We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission."

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 8 points 10 days ago

That's one model!

Still gotta kill the wealthy.

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Cherry 6 points 9 days ago

I think too many people think that negotiation is enough it’s not. Unfortunately we do need social tension as the rich recurrently take advantage.

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starlinguk 22 points 10 days ago

It's how the Suffragists finally got heard.

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 7 points 9 days ago

It's literally the only way to negotiate with the powerful.

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Smaile 18 points 10 days ago

They aren't arguing in good faith and don't want to change their opinion so force has now become nessisary.

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 3 points 9 days ago

Always was.

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DarrinBrunner 8 points 9 days ago

They fear ONLY for their personal well-being, they don't even care about their own kids.

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 2 points 9 days ago

That's just not true. Its the closest they cone to fucking someone who looks like they do, without the person they're fucking being old (12+) and gross! They care a little!

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ZombieMantis 3 points 9 days ago

You must speak before you fight, its the first step on the escalation ladder.

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 2 points 9 days ago

That's with people,cwho could possibly hive a shit what you have to say.

For the wealthy or conservative violence is speech. It's the only speech.

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explodicle 1 point 9 days ago

Dammit which one of you guys gave them permission?

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daannii -2 points 10 days ago

That and suing. But threats of violence might be faster and cheaper.

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PRIMEcavitationfetishist 14 points 10 days ago

Suing does not work and is not worth the cost when it pretends to.

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