Something like 35% of all homes in the US are governed by HOAs and roughly 2/3 of all new developments are adopting HOAs.
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LilB0kChoy 89 points 4 days ago
IrateAnteater 112 points 4 days ago
Reason number 4629 why I'll never be immigrating to the US. "Land of the free" my ass.
LilB0kChoy -14 points 4 days ago
HOAs or something of similar form exist in a lot of places. They require residents to be involved though. Anybody who lives in an HOA or similar and doesn’t participate (go to meetings, read their bylaws etc.) contributes to the organization being abused.
HOAs are most frequently[citation needed] found in the United States, Japan, Canada, Australia, and the Philippines,[3] and to some extent in other countries, such as New Zealand, Israel, Mauritius, South Africa, most of the countries of the European Union, such as Denmark, France, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, Ireland, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, Greece, Sweden, Belgium, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Lithuania, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Estonia, Slovakia and Slovenia, and some of the Latin American countries, such as Chile, Argentina, Brazil and Mexico.
BCsven 2 points 4 days ago
HOA are not in Canada.
Closest we have is strata when an apartment or condo is owned by all the owners having a share.
You have yearly vote for who sits on council, and bylaws can be changed by voting. The Strata does not have to approve your purchase into the unit like HOAs do to restrict the type of person who can own.
LilB0kChoy 2 points 4 days ago
Both stratas and HOAs can have bylaws that allow them to approve buyers. The most significant difference between an HOA and a Strata Corp. is that in Strata’s the owners have a financial interest in the common property.
BCsven 1 point 4 days ago
Looks like only financial approval (to ensure you can afford strata fees), and occupant count approval (like not a 10 person family in a 1 bedroom apartment) but Canada doesnt allow discriminatory buyer approval like HOAs in the states...strata just can't say no because no.
And rental bylaw got squashed with COVID
LilB0kChoy 2 points 4 days ago
HOAs in the US are governed by the Fair Housing Act and can’t just say “no because no”.
The 1968 act expanded on previous acts and prohibited discrimination concerning the sale, rental, and financing of housing based on race, religion, national origin, and since 1974, sex. Since 1988, the act protects people with disabilitiesand families with children. Pregnant women are also protected from illegal discrimination because they have been given familial status with their unborn child being the other family member.
You might be confusing deed covenants with HOAs.
BCsven 1 point 3 days ago
Mostly my info was based on a documentary of HOAs that were still saying no, probably with excuses, to keep black people out of their neighborhood
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Flock cameras aside, I would never buy a home that's part of an HOA. There have been too many stories over the last 10 years of these terrible people abusing their power, up-to and including stealing people's home out from under them. That neighborhood is unlivable.
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