How did Google discover public links of Claude chats?

4 days ago by KurtVonnegut to c/nostupidquestions

This news item from a few weeks ago revealed that when users created a "public link" of their Claude chat history, that chat history ended up in Google's search queries.

Aren't these urls supposed to be more or less undiscoverable by virtue of the long string of random characters that they contain?

How did Google discover those urls?

Did these people publish the urls somewhere publically themselves?

Or did Google "fish" them out of their gmail inbox or something like that?

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SnoopSqueak 15 points 3 days ago

Did these people publish the urls somewhere publically themselves?

They created a public link. Google scraped it because it wasn't told not to.

From the article:

A spokesman for Google made clear to the BBC that the company does not control "what pages are made public on the web," saying instead that action comes from websites.

"We give site owners clear controls to decide whether pages can be crawled or indexed, and we always respect those directives."

As the search indexing of the chat logs is no longer occurring, it is likely Anthropic used available tools to quickly block the chat log links from search results. Google's process for a website owner to block a link is straightforward, but must be initiated by a website owner.

Google was not the only one:

Other search engines like Bing, Brave and Duck Duck Go, through which the Claude chat logs also appeared, were approached for comment.

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khanas1f 5 points 3 days ago

Anthropic blocked the scraping quickly when this came to light but does google still has the URLs that it has already scraped?

I understand that new shared chats won't show up but what about the old ones.

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SnoopSqueak 1 point 3 days ago

Yes, Anthropic presumably submitted a request to block search results that lead to Claude chats, as well as to remove the ones that were already there. Google's removal tool can remove results that had been indexed, and the "noindex" meta tag prevents future indexing, if I'm understanding correctly.

https://support.google.com/...

does google still has the URLs that it has already scraped?

My guess would be yes. I doubt the removal tool actually deletes content, more likely it just deactivates it. It could theoretically be reactived or used for something else, possibly even inbreeding (AI chat logs to train AI on) or selling data to whoever pays for it. But that is just a guess, I could be wrong. I don't have much optimism when it comes to corporations, they tend to be as evil as they can get away with. If they legally acquired the content from those links because Anthropic neglected to protect them, there may not be many limits to what Google can do with those chat logs.

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KurtVonnegut 2 points 2 days ago

Why would AI companies respect noindex tags if they dont even care about copyright?

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SnoopSqueak 1 point 2 days ago

Yeah, they probably don't. But public search engines typically do.

It is very, very difficult to keep anything private these days.

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