"I salute all who served" GTFO

2 months ago by mulcahey to c/antitrumpalliance

a million pieces/segments sneering at hasan piker and the co-chair of the DSA, meanwhile a republican congressional candidate in upstate new york named peter oberacker is the grandson of an actual nazi germany soldier and his former staffer was part of the 'i love hitler' young GOP group chat

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ConHoliousDonFrankle 81 points 2 months ago

Should everyone be proud of where they come from? Probably not.

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OldChicoAle 44 points 2 months ago

I don't think being proud of your ancestry or heritage should be the default setting. In fact, we should look back with a critical view and criticize where we should and learn where appropriate. Humans tend to suck, you know? So we should acknowledge that and not ignore the faults of our nature.

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TheJesusaurus 15 points 2 months ago

Thing is, you could very easily be a very proud German AND proud of your family and still say "yeah, I'm not so proud of my country and family between 1939 and 1945"

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balsoft 8 points 2 months ago

You can be proud of yourself and your own achievements. You can be proud of how your kids or students turned out and, to an extent, their achievements. You can be proud of your teammates (colleagues, coauthors etc) and what your team has done. Being proud of millions of totally unrelated people, or a social construct like a "nation" or a "country" is a big fucking stretch. If you insist on doing that, you also need to be ashamed of all the awful shit your country has done too. And believe me, there will be a ton of shit there. Can't take the credit but eschew the responsibility.

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BarneyPiccolo 6 points 2 months ago

A lot of people came to America because where they was was so shitty, that even a wilderness like America looked good.

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