What's with worldnews banning me for saying the USSR didn't singlehandedly defeat the Nazis?

5 days ago by JustPlainDave to c/asklemmy

I replied to someone saying that the USSR defeated the Nazis saying that it was a group effort. Got into an argument and called a Nazi repeatedly because "I was mad that the USSR defeated the Nazis and hated them for it" which is ridiculous. This isn't the first time that's happened on Lemmy. What's up with that?

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Kolanaki 34 points 5 days ago

They also seem to mad that you pointed out Russia was on the Axis side originally and is acting like they were always on the Allied side.

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radio_free_asgarthr -19 points 5 days ago

No they didn't. If a non-aggression pact allowing Nazi annexation of territory is equivalent to an alliance, then France and Britain allied with the Nazis multiple times before the Soviets. There is a reason about how the only non-aggression pact that you hear about is Molotov-Ribbentrop pact and not the Munich Agreements or the Franco-German Declaration, etc. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact came out of the Soviets being turned down multiple times by France and Britain to forming an anti-fascist alliance.

This is the selective remembrance of appeasement. It is ignored that that encompassed many non-aggression pacts with the Nazis and is only remembered to selectively invoke for war hawking. If we say a nation is evil, than not being on board with a war of aggression is actually evil (Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.) and you are just like Chamberlain, whose only motivation was being a pussy. You can discuss the morality or effectiveness, but Molotov-Ribbentrop was to try to delay the war for preparation and that the Nazis wouldn't be stupid enough to start a war without their own oil and steel supplies and without preventing a possibility of a two front war with France/Britain, and the Soviets were caught flat-footed because of overestimating the rationality of the Nazis. There was also the worry that France and Britain might eventually join the Nazis since they were pretty vocal about fascism being a possible necessary evil as it is the most extreme form of anti-communism, even though the attempt of appeasement was trying to sit out an eventual war between the Nazis and USSR, since Judeo-Bolshevism was a thing Nazis believed before they even took power.

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SupraMario 10 points 5 days ago

Lol please just shut up with your rewriting of history. No one is going to listen to your braindead ruzzian take on how the USSR was the good guys.

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radio_free_asgarthr -14 points 5 days ago

Lol, the cold war is over. You don't have to keep rewriting history to justify the US as the only good guys and that Klaus Barbie and Rheinhard Gehlen were misunderstood.

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SupraMario 8 points 5 days ago

Tell your dear leader Putin that...

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radio_free_asgarthr -11 points 5 days ago

Putin is not my leader, inform your boss Trump.

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Kolanaki 6 points 5 days ago

Why do you got his dick in your mouth, then?

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radio_free_asgarthr 0 points 5 days ago

You do realize that Putin and the modern Russian Federation are both anti-communists? It is not 1985, though you might not realize that sitting in McCarthy and Nixon's open graves.

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Kolanaki 8 points 5 days ago

No shit they're anti-communist. If they were actual communists, the people would have the power not the government. You're still defending them and trying to deny actual history. So what's up with that?

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Konkyer -12 points 4 days ago

Nobody here is defending Russia. You seem to have a failure in basic understanding here.

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