Flathub Reverses AI-Generated App Ban, Now Requires Disclosure

4 days ago by tumbling4986 to c/technology

Flathub reverses its ban on AI-generated apps, introducing mandatory disclosure requirements while keeping restrictions on automated submissions.
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Dalaryous 10 points 3 days ago

Makes sense. AI can accelerate experienced coders. I'm ok to see people use AI for helping but NOT for Vibe Coding.

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applebusch 28 points 3 days ago

no it cant. every time someone does a study they find it slows people down and degrades quality. youre just parroting an ad basically.

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ImgurRefugee114 12 points 3 days ago

I can only talk from personal experience, but it absolutely does speed up things. I know because I went from working away at one project to progressing many projects at the same time. Starting up new projects I never would have bothered to do in the first place just because the work would have been so tedious and I wouldn't have enough time in the day. Mind you, I don't vibe code things for public consumption. These are all for my personal use, but the fact that they exist at all is evidence contrary to your points.

(Important note: how I use AI in important software is very different from how I use AI for slop projects; the speedups are not as dramatic when you aren't vibrcoding and you actually need good quality; I suspect most AI usage would actually be a slight downgrade for speed unless I delegated them strictly to review and menial implementation; but that actually assumes that I know the language I'm working in very well, which isn't always the case for vibecoded projects: In those cases, the AI slop is probably equal to or better than what I would write by hand because I'm not as competent in elixir or javascript as I am in C or C++)

I feel like this is dishwasher discourse... Washing by hand is faster than the dishwasher by the wallclock; but you don't actually need to rinse as much as you probably do, and you can walk away and do other stuff while the dishwasher is working. If you just sit there and stare at the dishwasher, yes, it's slower, but that's not how people should use it, and that's what most of those studies are showing. Again, that level of sloppiness isn't applicable for all use cases, but for where it is useful, it is very useful.

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TrumpetX -1 points 2 days ago

Listen, I'm a VERY healthy skeptic of AI on a number of fronts, but saying it can't speed things up is just not true.

I feel like I understand where you're trying to come from with the argument about skill degradation, but the flat statement you say here is undeniably false.

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traxex -3 points 3 days ago

"Degrades quality" assumes developers are already writing good code to start. Unfortunately that just isn't true. For people who know what they are doing and can properly guide it, it absolutely speeds up the menial tasks that plague software engineering. I'm not even a fan of the direction AI is going yet I absolutely see the value here.

For the AI haters, we really need to attack it from a better angle than "it doesn't work" because it absolutely does.

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just_an_average_joe 14 points 3 days ago

That's like saying social media can make people more social, when we know that for most people it just leads to addiction.

Human brains are designed to find shortcuts, vibe coding is one of them. I've seen plenty of senior devs fall into this trap.

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