I keep hearing bad stuff about proton, but I don’t really get most of it. Could someone please explain all of the controversy to me. Lastly, what are the best alternatives to all of their services?
What’s so bad about proton, and is there alternatives to all of their services?
3 days ago by 1121219165 to c/privacy
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nfreak 11 points 3 days ago
This sums it up well. Their products are fine, but putting everything into one company isn't a good idea, and the political statements leave little faith.
I use their free Drive for sharing files, but I've moved to Tuta for email and just about everything else selfhosted. I'm still running out a mullvad subscription but I'll be switching that to IVPN when it expires.
LewdLemon 11 points 3 days ago
I’m still running out a mullvad subscription but I’ll be switching that to IVPN when it expires.
I'm in the same boat: still on Mullvad, but eager to switch due to... things. May I ask what your main reason is to consider IVPN above all others? I'm still stuck choosing between IVPN, Proton and Nym.
JustEnoughDucks 3 points 2 days ago
Aren't proton thinking of moving out of Switzerland because the swiss jurisdiction got so bad? https://swissobserver.com/...
NamelessDeity 1 point 2 days ago
would self hosting be the way to go then in this case? also how good is using proton solely for mail and vpn? or should i diversify more?
LewdLemon 1 point a day ago
would self hosting be the way to go then in this case?
Absolutely. 👍 Running your own Nextcloud (+ calendar + contacts addons, + office if you like) gives you most of what Proton has to offer: docs/filehosting, calendar and contact sync (via calDAV/cardDAV). You can even tack on notes, photos, a password manager and more if you like, although I think there are better specialised tools for each of these. (For me, that'd be Joplin, immich and keepass + Syncthing.)
also how good is using proton solely for mail and vpn? or should i diversify more?
Personally, I would always separate my e-mail provider (which is prime real estate for identifying me personally) from my VPN (which is supposed to make me harder to identify). Whether that's true for you (and worth the little bit of extra cost) is up to you.
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I'll keep it short, but provide links for further reading. First off, I don't think proton is "bad", or anyone is trash-talking them legitimately. Both their jurisdiction (Switzerland), dedication to FOSS and good audit results make them a solid choice.
Diversification is my main reason why I'd never go all-in on Proton. Over the years, they've grown an ever more complete suite of apps (e-mail, calendar, VPN, password manager, docs, AI) that does share some similarity with the Google app suite in that you're essentially putting all eggs in one company's basket - and a lot of trust with that. If Proton got hacked, got subverted by a three-letter agency, or just got taken advantage of by a rogue employee, the effects would be much more impactful than if it had just been your e-mail provider, just your VPN service, just your...
Also, Proton's official social media account echoing CEO Andy Yen's private statements on U.S. politics haven't helped convince people that the company is, indeed, politically neutral and solely focused on privacy.
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