shanghaibebop 25 points 3 years ago

So far I haven’t felt any overt political views other than be respectful of other people.

I used to be pretty extreme on the free speech side (a la Ellen Pao saga), but I think the biggest lesson I learned is that unfettered trolls just drive out solid content and create very toxic communities.

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BlackCoffee 28 points 3 years ago

Free speech absolutists have nothing to do with free speech.

These just want to say what they want without having to bear the consequences.

The right to say what you want is a good thing. But in the end it doesn't mean that the other side should be accepting of the speech you deem free.

If one is spouting vitrol/hate/intolerance towards a group of people under the banner "free speech" then don't look up weird when the affected are not accepting of that speech you deem free.

For me the whole idea free speech is to express yourself how you want to (within what is reasonable, use your common sense) without the police and/or government knocking at your door.

At that point my boundary is at spewing or pushing for intolerance. I refuse to be be tolerant towards intolerance.

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DarbyDear 8 points 3 years ago

This is exactly it. They don't want freedom of speech, they want freedom from the consequences of their speech. They don't like that the people affected by their speech have a voice too, and that the hateful rhetoric they spew into the world is finally being pushed back on. To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.

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darkwing_duck 1 point 3 years ago

It just means the government can't go after you for it. No more or less.

Consequently, that also means any physical harm the public does to you is a crime and should be prosecuted.

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Riyria 4 points 3 years ago

The most aggressive free speech advocates I know are also some of the most horrible human beings I've ever met. They believe horrible shit. They want free speech because they know what they say is horrible, and want to be able to continue to say it with no real consequences other than being socially ostracized.

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