Replace Spotify

3 years ago by Starfarer to c/selfhosted

Hi Selfhosted,

I am looking for the best solution to replace spotify for at home and out of the house music.

I already have a large music library and run moOde for multiroom audio and use spotify connect to cast to it.

Is my best option to set up an MPD server and wireguard vpn to use it on the go? Are there other options? What would you recommend?

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karax 16 points 3 years ago

I think you're on the right track with Wireguard.

I'm also running Jellyfin, but mostly Navidrome for music. I've been pretty satisfied with the latter.

Consuming music outside the house has been a significant issue. I mostly tried to go the offline route: download some music to play while you're out of the house ... and on Android the experience has been overall very poor. My least worst experience was with Substreamer as a client, but still not anywhere near good.

Where I'm at today is with always-on VPN through Wireguard and the experience is significantly better than any other solution I've tried before.

It's been years I haven't played with mpd, so I can't comment on that.

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Scrath 7 points 3 years ago

+1 for navidrome.

I'm also using that and have it exposed to the web using a cloudflare tunnel. What I didn't like in the beginning but really appreciate now is that the service itself doesn't have a lot of permissions and cannot delete files or change their metadata. I'm hosting it in a docker container and everything except the config file is mounted read-only.

I'm not sure how relevant that is but it gives me more peace of mind exposing it publicly.

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Starfarer 3 points 3 years ago

Thay sounds potentially better than having to vpn in to use it.

How are you liking navidrome?

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Scrath 4 points 3 years ago

Performance is good and streaming works well. Not a fan of the webinterface personally but there are client programs available for all platforms since navidrome exposes the subsonic api.

Personally I use sonix on windows and linux as well as symfonium (paid but really great app) on android.

The only thing I am missing from it is better user management so that I can restrict specific users from accessing parts of my library.

Regarding access from outside my network I specifically wanted to avoid needing to be connected to a VPN so that's why I use a cloudflare tunnel. Since my upload rate is not very good I have a Pi-Hole DNS server at home so that queries to my domain while in the home network don't need to leave my network.

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Starfarer 1 point 3 years ago

Thank you for the info. Sounds like I've got a fair bit to look in to. 👍

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chrisbit 4 points 3 years ago

Not OP, but I also use Navidrome, hosted as a docker container on Synology NAS with reverse proxy for streaming outside the house. Have found the Symfonium app (paid) to be a great replacement for Spotify.

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zaphod 2 points 3 years ago

Seconding Synphonium, it's surprisingly good and gets updates very regularly.

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lckdscl 4 points 3 years ago

Navidrome replaced Spotify for me, with Symfonium on Android, I'm never going back. On PC you can use any Subsonic client, and there are plenty I threw Tailscale on top to access it when I go out.

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