PSA: Lemmy.ml is not Lemmy

3 years ago by concrete_baby to c/fediverse

Too many people are confusing the two. Whenever lemmy.ml or its devs do something stupid, people go "Lemmy is getting worse and worse," or "I'm leaving Lemmy," or worse, "I'm leaving for Beehaw."

If you're using Beehaw, then you're using Lemmy. Lemmy is the software these instances run on. If you don't like lemmy.ml, join another instances that have rules that match your philosophy. Some instance hosts authoritarian or fascist shit? Turn to another Lemmy instance. Lemmy.ml is not even the biggest instance. People who just joined and are unfamiliar with the platform will just think the entire Lemmyverse is run by autocratic admins if we don't get our terminology right.

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timothy1200 28 points 3 years ago

Just out of curiosity, what did the devs do that was stupid?

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porkins 32 points 3 years ago

The devs hold extreme political views. They are on board with the Tiananmen Square massacre being necessary and shit like that. Like this post says though, there are plenty of instances that are totally run by normal people. Additionally, the Lemmy server code is open source, so that helps to ensure that it isn’t doing anything nefarious behind-the-scenes.

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pivotraze 9 points 3 years ago

Exactly. My instance is run by a normal guy. I mean, he’s a Chief Information Security Officer and none of those guys are REALLY normal, but still.

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SuddenDownpour 4 points 3 years ago

Damn, so they're not only tankies, but the dumbest kind of tankies. If you're going to simp for authoritarian regimes with red flags, at least don't defend the ones that are actively privatizing public sectors of the economy and dismantling whatever nominal socialism there actually exists.

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cloudless 28 points 3 years ago

Source: https://kbin.social/...

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Here is one of the Lemmy devs denying that the Uyghur genocide in China is happening:

https://old.reddit.com/...

"The Uyghur genocide is as real as white genocide."

Here they are again denying it:

https://old.reddit.com/...

"The holocaust was a genocide that actually happened, with all the evidence that goes along with it. There is no Uyghur genocide."

"Do you believe in anything as soon as the word "genocide" gets attached to it? What about "white genocide"? Are you a white genocide denier?"

And just so nobody can deny that parentis_shotgun is a Lemmy dev: -

“I’m one of the devs of Lemmy” https://i.imgur.com/5kp9BP0.png

Direct links to the posts will not work but still exist on the user’s profile page: https://old.reddit.com/user/parentis_shotgun/ - hold PgDn until comments stop loading then Control+F. In fact feel free to peruse their history in general - it’s quite interesting.

One of my favorite posts is their defense of the government of North Korea in /r/AskTankies: https://old.reddit.com/...

Now ask yourself why would someone who is not a Red Fascist Tankie piece of shit be answering questions on behalf of Tankies in /r/AskTankies while defending a totalitarian regime? Is it… perhaps because they’re in support of such a regime because they are in fact a Tankie piece of shit?

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cloudless 16 points 3 years ago

https://lemmy.ml/post/1167199

More details in the link above, here is the introduction:

"My concern is that users are being banned and content is being removed on lemmy.ml citing a rule that is not publicly stated anywhere that I have seen.

Moderators of lemmy.ml are removing posts and comments which are critical of the Chinese government and are banning their authors."

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learningduck -2 points 3 years ago

So, the dev is another /u/spez.

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nizzy 7 points 3 years ago

most of the drama has been around beehaw, people don't like the political affiliations of the main dev... but idk what you're gunna do about that besides move to kbin witch uses lemmy anyways.

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ritswd -16 points 3 years ago

Kbin and Lemmy are both based on ActivityPub, but they don’t use each other.

I don’t think the drama has been only around BeeHaw, the existence of Kbin itself is mostly because of the Lemmy devs being holocaust deniers, believing in “white genocide”, and stuff like that. I also wasn’t convinced at some point until I was pointed at the receipts, see the “Read right here” comment on this post: https://lemmy.world/comment/562635

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drmoose 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah I'm out of the loop too. Though AFAIK lemmy.ml has always been awfully run instance full of tankies.

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WhiteTiger 22 points 3 years ago

The fuck is a tankie?

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