What are your thoughts on the French riots?

3 years ago by Tee to c/acab

  • I am just so, so heartbroken. France have a history of riots and unrest, including an ongoing one this year, which especially is one of the biggest after the murder of a 17 y.o
  • Systemic racism is not new there, and what also isn't new is the tolerance of the people towards the system.
  • https://crimethinc.com/...
  • I hope the above link is accurate and concise enough to briefly explain everything. Let me know if there is any misinformation
  • I don't think anyone should form an opinion on one particular incident, and then forming an opinion based on that alone. It doesn't work that way. This has to be viewed from a historical context, something that builds up slowly.
  • I've seen groups talk about this from an anti-immigration point of view. This isn't something "recent". Post-colonialist does not mean colonialist nations have been restored and granted independence. You have to look at migration during the colonial period, which influences the systemic racism in the country to this date.
  • I cannot find if Nahel HAS any criminal record or not. But the closest accurate source, which is the person at the situation, who recorded a video described something HIGHLY diverging from the fast and furious ultra 15 minute car chase misinformation sources.

The criminal records that people describe even, are not even close to something that should result in multiple buttstrikings?

  • People talk about the protests in an anarchist nature, saying that there are a group of people looting and taking advantage of the actual protests. I'm still researching on this and I would like your opinions on this especially. I don't want to see immediate anti-anarchist takes, let's stop with the infighting
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Aru 44 points 3 years ago

I cannot find if Nahel HAS any criminal record or not

It's a 17 year old kid, was literally born in 2006, homie was born the same year as need for speed carbon, what kind of criminal record would he have to justify being shot?

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ProbablyKaffe 30 points 3 years ago

Heavy agree with this. African diaspora are subject to disgusting violence but we have to explain our innocence, because the assumption is that we must have wronged the Liberal (white) order in some way to have been hurt or killed by the state or "heroic" citizens (lynchers, the prevalence of vigilante characters in Western media should not go unnoticed). The question remains why lynching is acceptable para-legal punishment for Africans but not for "French" people.

If you (2nd person you) say it isn't acceptable for either, then why are we looking to absolve the crimes of the police after the fact? Why don't we see white French speakers in the streets when a person of their skin tone is slaughtered by the police? Is it because they assume they are criminals too? If so, then doesn't that mean your society already sees the rule of law unnecessary in dealing with "undesirables" and lumpenproles (who are in such position through the motions of capitalist economics, especially colonialism)? Is that society not already fascist? The society that projected that indifference to the lives of those who the rule of law doesn't apply in their colonies such as that of Algeria and Libya where hundreds of thousands were slaughtered without having committed a crime, is it not "fascist"?

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