'100-200,000, not two million': Israel's finance minister envisions depopulated Gaza
3 years ago by NightOwl to c/worldnews
Yeah and back then it was Zionists who collaborated with him to populate Palestine with 60,000 German Jews.
It's annoying making the comparison derails the conversation so much. Yeah, sure, one of the ethnicities involved happens to be repeating and that sucks, but that's the one genocide people know stuff about.
Edit: Lol, didn't expect this to get downvoted. Why?
Maybe, but communication is a two-way street. If everyone is having trouble reading my stuff I need to make it simpler.
What!? Where did I say that??
I was complaining that you can't compare the Holocaust to the current situation in Israel-Palestine at all, even when they do the exact same stuff, or a lot of people freak out.
People should freak out. If Israel succeeds in eradicating Palestine that will by definition be a holocaust. When you do the exact same things, you get compared.
Saying the quiet part out loud again. Forced relocation through either terror or expatriation is Ethnic Cleansing. Ethnic Cleansing may fall under the Genocide Convention.
WTF?
The primary genocide requirement is intent. Instead of throwing “maybes” around, you should spend a minute or two to read the convention in full instead of polluting the discourse.
Especially now that the intent is clearly stated by a government official.
He already has plans for it, and using the military to do it. He has made it clear he plans to go full fascist right from day one if he were to win again. It's his only way to not spend the rest of his life in prison (and he loves the idea of being a dictator).
I think if he tries that, the US breaks down as there is no way everyone will go with it.
Trump winning is a win for the enemies of the US and a win for the enemies of the wider free world.
Edit: Add a few words for clarity.
So Biden is allowed to do whatever he wants, we are obligated to vote for him, as long as he's just a tiny bit less bad than trump would be?
Trump isn't winning the Republican primary.
What's the point of living if I have to vote for genocide?
Then the democratic party should make the most basic effort to condemn genocide. I wont vote for the support of genocide. It's really not a high bar. It's frankly pathetic that you are suggesting we have accept that. That makes you explicitly in support of the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the people of Palestine. You are evil.
Plenty of them are. But you're willing to toss them all out with a figurehead. The AICP is currently campaigning against several Democrats for calling out the genocide .Yeah Biden's out of touch and a bit problematic. But this is the height of self-defeating virtue signaling. Not that it has stopped a lot of you in the past. San timoniously and hypocritically criticizing everyone else while doing nothing to make the situation actually better. Soothing your own conscience with trying to convince yourself that you're meaningless gesture was worth it.
Biden is what we are saddled with and it could be far worse. You need to take care of business this election cycle and the moment it's over start pushing better people for 2028 or sooner.
Stop doing that you insufferable pea-brained dolt.
Not voting for Biden doesn't mean I'm voting for Trump.
Idiots like you sit there like your vote is a party popper you MUST use to show if your streamers and confetti are blue or red.
I am disgusted with the options I am presented with. I get no streamers or confetti...
Unless Biden condemns the Israeli genocide of Palestine and champions imposing massive embargoes on Israel while fully ceasing any funding in full.
Then I might believe he (and the DNC) are humbling WAY the fuck up, listening to their constituents, and correcting course is the SMALLEST of ways.
I vote for anyone but Biden, or even a no vote, is a vote for Trump.
If you think Palestine is in bad shape under Biden, try to imagine how much worse it'd be with Trump.
The only way to get Democrat candidates on the left is to crush the right wing so that the Overton window moves.
I ask you, if there is one party that tries you stop you from voting in any way they can, doesn't you not voting play into their hand?
So he wants to kill 90% of the populace in a geographical region.
How does anyone deny this is genocide?
It is not possible to move 1.8 million people out of a region like Gaza without mass death. This is not some secret information that Israel doesn't know. The state of Israel has demonstrated at every possible opportunity that at best it does not care and at worst that's the goal.
So you're saying the Trail of Tears was perfectly fine and not seen as Genocide? I think you're wrong and a blind fool
It is essentially the same, it would result in the deaths of thousands. Even the Nazis tried to relocate Jewish people and realized it wasn't feasible. The people advocating for relocation know this.
Okay hear me out, what if, after you make sure each person isn’t hamas, you tattoo their arm, and…
I believe IBM could help with this.
"We won't do genocide, but what about 90% genocide?"
95% tops!
We're all being ironic, I think. In reality, if your goal is to make an ethnic group smaller so you don't have to deal with them as much, that's genocide, or at least ethnic cleansing. No specific number is required.
Also, FYI, Jews across continental Europe had a bad time. Anywhere the Nazis went genocide followed, so you don't really need to specify German.
I know it's dark humor, and I kind of hate myself for even thinking this. But now I'm seeing a far side style comic with a group of soldiers standing around, arguing over not wanting to kill the last Palestinian, because that's what makes it genocide.
Yes, but then the countries of the world need to brutally stomp out the aggressor of the genocide, and need to forcibly give the victims of the genocide the plot of land they claim as their original home.
Yet again,
But remember, not a genocide.
All of them there just to do menial labor for Israelis that move in and elsewhere. Just enough for housekeepers and their families.
I don't know the context, but I doubt he was expressing a fear of his, somehow. I just wanted to say he's got a very punchable face in that picture.
To be honest I would argue the sentiment that this approach isn't what most Israeli civilians envisioned for some years now, but seeing as how all actions taken by both IDF and Israeli government, I seriously doubt this guy is alone in his fascist thoughts when he bursts out these inhumane sentiments.
I would advise against defending these genocidal state apparatus, nor mixing the views of civilian population of Israel with these bloodthirsty colonialist monsters.
Israeli people are innocent in this conflict, as are Palestinian people. However, Palestinian people are too poor and oppressed from all sides to make a conscious decision to root out Hamas, so the part of responsibility that falls on them is hard to accomplish. Israeli people, on the other hand, still have enough faculties, although at the brink of destruction by the fear-mongering campaign of Bibi the Genocider, to carry out their part of the responsibility in forming peaceful living by dismantling their current terrorist and fascist government (at the elections at worst).
What I advise is don't try push the blame under a rug by making scapegoats out of a few people while letting the rest ruin the last semblance of your democracy.
Yeah, he should have kept a lid on it like everyone else at the Wannsee Conference.
Thanks. This kind of reality check is very necessary.
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Encouraging Jews to leave "voluntarily" was Hitler's first step, too. Then when most people don't want to leave their homes, you justify your escalation by saying you gave them a chance.
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