Should I have separate Lemmy and Mastodon accounts?

3 years ago by TheDoctorDonna to c/nostupidquestions

I am still learning this whole thing and I ended up creating accounts here and on Mastodon. Is that necessary or do I automatically have a Mastodon username with my Lemmy? I used the same stuff on both accounts, can I merge them or something?

Edit: thanks everyone, I can't respond to each comment while I'm at work, but I appreciate every one of you!

natarey 47 points 3 years ago

I keep them separate -- I don't like a single point of failure, and we're all so early on the fediverse stuff that I'm sure a few servers and services will implode in the near future before things settle down. Would be a real hassle to have everything attached to a single account.

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Chronophage 2 points 3 years ago

This was my thought exactly! I ended up signing up for access on 11 servers in a mix of mastodon, lemmy and kbin. Probably went overboard.

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chris 42 points 3 years ago

You can interact on both platforms using one account, but the best experience is to have an account on each - Lemmy communities don't work very well on Mastodon, and Mastodon users can't be followed from Lemmy. Kbin is the middle ground which can do both.

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NatoBoram 10 points 3 years ago

Kbin also turns all your upvotes into reblogs, so you'll be spamming Mastodon users whenever you like posts

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chris 1 point 3 years ago

No it doesn't. The boost (reblog) function is separate. The confusion is that there's a reputation thing which is linked up to boosts rather than upvotes, or maybe it's the post ordering. Anyway, it's not boosting upvotes, that's a different button entirely.

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kat 19 points 3 years ago

I have separate accounts for Lemmy and Pixelfed/Mastodon. Their content is so different, that it's hard to find a unified way of interacting with it (following accounts vs. subscribing to and interacting within communities).

If you still prefer to combine both, you could make an account on kbin.social. With that you can follow both Mastodon and Lemmy content and get a "unified" UI. I cannot say how well it works though, since I haven't tried it myself.

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theothermatt_b 9 points 3 years ago

Yeah I tried following a community on my mastodon account and it turns out "tweet-style" is not the best way to view comment threads.

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NostraDavid 4 points 3 years ago
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ScaNtuRd 1 point 3 years ago

KeePass is awesome. We have a new community on here dedicated to KeePass. You should come join at !keepass

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ShaggyDemiurge 4 points 3 years ago

Is there an android app for kbin?

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chris 3 points 3 years ago

Not yet, but there are a couple coming, eg. !ArtemisApp

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3xa8yte 3 points 3 years ago

Artemis for kbin is in development.

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xaxl 1 point 3 years ago

I looked a little into making one but there isn't an API for KBin that would translate into a good experience yet.

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Tiffany 14 points 3 years ago

Separate seems smart. Interacting from Lemmy to Mastodon and vice-versa isn't exactly the most user friendly experience, since neither platform was really built with those type of interactions in mind.

Perhaps in future it'll be more seamless.

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BlueSilverRed 8 points 3 years ago

I get that there are different apis for Lemmy and Mastodon (and maybe Lemmy and kbin), but I’m interested to know why you can’t create a server that supports both/all apis. Even if it’s not possible to support the correct ui on a website, why am I not allowed to log into an app that would display all the ui correctly regardless of whether your account is from mastodon/lemmy/kbin.

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jcg 6 points 3 years ago

Because they're all different applications. I think the confusion here is between ActivityPub the protocol, and the applications that actually use it. The applications that use AP are all different, they have different data structures, hell mastodon and Lemmy/kbin are completely different at a conceptual level. They just communicate with each other via AP, but once they receive the AP message they convert it into their own data structures and concepts. And you should note that AP is technically a communications protocol, it doesn't prescribe how stuff should be stored or sorted after an object is communicated between two servers and doesn't really prescribe a way to browse through the historical activities of a person. These are things implemented by the application you're using. So it's not like you could just write an app that combs through all that data available on the fediverse, you'd need an instance that federates with all these places, then an app that uses that instance. Technically feasible but so far nobody's done it yet, but you can see how some people reply to threads on Lemmy via Mastodon.

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toasteranimation 1 point 3 years ago

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toasteranimation 1 point 3 years ago

Memmy (and wefwef) is for lemmy instances only, while kbin can access both lemmy and mastodon communities.

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BlueSilverRed 2 points 3 years ago

@toasteranimation when kbin finally gets apps, will I be able to log into them with my mastodon account but see the “correct” ui for lemmy and kbin?

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toasteranimation 1 point 3 years ago

I don’t think so. you’d login with your kbin account (I think)

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Melco 3 points 3 years ago
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skullgiver 2 points 3 years ago
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Melco 1 point 3 years ago
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skullgiver 2 points 3 years ago
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ChouffeMeUp 3 points 3 years ago

I went with both (mainly because I like different usernames for different apps/sites) but see what looks like people using one login for both.

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Duchess 2 points 3 years ago

That's the way I personally do it. I'd love to be able to merge my lemmy and calckey accounts but a lot of us are still finding our feet in the fediverse right now. I've personally moved from a mastodon to a calckey instance and switched from one lemmy instance to another.

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Flaky 1 point 3 years ago

I do. It just feels right to compartmentalise the two. Kbin has microblogging if you want a little bit of both though.

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skullgiver 1 point 3 years ago

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justanotherjo 1 point 3 years ago

Yes. I recommend both. The 2 entities, while linked, behave differently. Think of lemmy/kbin like reddit and mastodon like Twitter.

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CataclysmZA 1 point 3 years ago

I similarly have separate logins. One day there'll be easier integrations, but I don't think kbin is it for now.

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xaxl 1 point 3 years ago

They have different UIs that are better tailored to their respective platforms so imo it's better to have accounts on both.

You don't need to have a single account for everything and it's far better for several reasons not to, even when it comes to Lemmy. Your browser and apps remember your account details for you anyway.

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