Sweden charges Greta Thunberg for blockading oil port

3 years ago by Sam BOT to c/world

The climate activist blocked a port handling fossil fuels with a group of young activists in June.

theceoofanarchism 88 points 3 years ago
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histy 25 points 3 years ago
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Anomander 35 points 3 years ago

I think it's worth addressing that "the right people" are very often going out of their way to be absolutely unreachable by the average joe and are completely impossible for mere poors to meaningfully bother directly. Protest will always inconvenience average people first, because the little people are always affected more than the rich in any action, especially any that would manage to rattle the powerful in any way.

The powerful have managed to structure society and laws alike to make effectively all actions that would target them directly and spare the average joe from any collateral overspill either impractical - or significantly more illegal than protest actions that cast a broader net. The idea from the powerful is to ensure that protest must affect other citizens in order to reach them, and can't just target them directly. Targeting them, alone, is harassment, or trespass on private property, or ... etc.

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saltesc 6 points 3 years ago

Yep. Protesting is just marketing. It is very effective when done well and backfires when done poorly. If you study the market and target audience properly, they'll listen and join the cause.

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fishos 18 points 3 years ago

Protests actually weren't MLKs strongest tool, and he himself admits it. Getting arrested for doing something and then challenging it in court now that you have standing was his biggest tool. Most of the protests were just a means to get arrested. It's revisionist history that says it was the protests specifically that worked because it's better to emphasize the tactics that didnt work than to point out what actually did and risk a reoccurrence.

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guyman 5 points 3 years ago

Can you provide any sources to back up what you're saying?

It sounds nice, but when you mention 'revisionist history' without providing sources I'm immediately skeptical.

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fishos 3 points 3 years ago

https://www.thefire.org/...

I'm not saying protests didn't have a use. Just that their main use was overshadowed. Peacefully sitting in somewhere didn't do much. It was the legal things it lead to that did something. Without the legal precedents set, it would have just been brushed back under the rug eventually. You need to incite change, not just annoyance.

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guyman 48 points 3 years ago

If your enemies are mad at you, you're doing something right.

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sab 13 points 3 years ago

It's Sweden. They're going to fine her while telling her that they're on her side but "rules are rules", and meanwhile keep on consuming exactly like before without having reflected for a second on anything at all.

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sjatar 23 points 3 years ago

Let's not forget the real villains: "Cutting oil and gas production would be "dangerous and irresponsible", the head of energy company Shell told BBC News."

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overzeetop 6 points 3 years ago

Won’t someone think of the poor corporations!?

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AlgonquinHawk 14 points 3 years ago

Go her. She’s doing very inspirational actions. Hopefully the courts see that.

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Xariphon 13 points 3 years ago

Police exist to protect capital from even the most basic inconvenience.

ACAB.

Greta is a true treasure and I'm always happy to see her in the news.

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MelodiousShark 5 points 3 years ago

How dare they.

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MaxVoltage 3 points 3 years ago

Imagine worrying about climate change and not world hunger. The combines need gas dang it

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ohle 3 points 3 years ago

Climate change is the biggest thread to food production. Food and water scarcity will be (and to some extend already are) among the very first noticable catastrophic effects of climate change.

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guyman 1 point 3 years ago

Climate change has the real possibility of affecting rich people.

Poor people having stable access to food would negatively affect the wealthy. Who else would, say, desperately mine our cobalt?

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md5crypto -7 points 3 years ago

Good.

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