Twitter Blue accounts fuel Ukraine War misinformation

3 years ago by Some_Emo_Chick to c/news

False and misleading claims about the war in Ukraine are being widely shared.

False and misleading posts about the Ukraine conflict continue to go viral on major social media platforms, as Russia's invasion of the country extends beyond 500 days.

ribboo 31 points 3 years ago

That blue checkmark is literally an indication of something that should be ignored.

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NuPNuA -11 points 3 years ago

What's fascinating is for those of us somewhere in the centre, the blue tick has gone from representing mad ideas on one side of the spectrum to mad ideas on the other end without ever hitting the penumbra of sensibility.

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ribboo 20 points 3 years ago

Thinking official organizations, companies, newspapers, celebrities and other well known people being as mad on one side of the spectrum, as what we currently have, is not a centrist view.

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JaffnaCakes 28 points 3 years ago path: 0 1019474, hotness: undefined, score: 28, children: 4
fakepostman 11 points 3 years ago

Contacted by BBC Verify for a response to the false and misleading Twitter Blue posts highlighted in this article, Twitter's press office acknowledged receipt of our enquiry, but declined to comment.

An interesting variation on the obligatory "automated poop emoji" disclaimer

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Some_Emo_Chick 10 points 3 years ago

Weird. I thought I had the article posted. Thanks for doing that.

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JaffnaCakes 4 points 3 years ago

No worries. It confused me at first, thought I was just struggling to see a link. But I'd read it a few minutes before anyway and thought it was a good article and worthy of a share.

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vaguerant 8 points 3 years ago

Now, this is odd. Perhaps it's a bug in Lemmy? I'm reading this post on kbin (here's the link to it on kbin.social, you can look without an account) and @Some_Emo_Chick's original post has the link just fine, it's the header link as you'd expect. If I go over to lemmy.world and view the same post, the header link instead points to a webp thumbnail from the article, hosted on lemmy.world itself. This seems to mean that the correct link was posted, since it's what we got on kbin, but Lemmy fumbled somewhere and replaced it with the thumbnail.

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z3n0x 13 points 3 years ago

surprised pickachu is surprised

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some_guy 5 points 3 years ago

It's depressing seeing the shit that people will believe. I've immersed myself in learning about conspiratorial thinking and still never stop being surprised at the dumb shit people believe. I mean, stuff that just defies imagination (baby factories being the example in this article).

I think religion is the primary common thread. People who believe fantastical stories start somewhere and I think it's the christian bible.

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taanegl 4 points 3 years ago
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ghariksforge -34 points 3 years ago

who decides that something is disinformation? NATO high command?

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Some_Emo_Chick 43 points 3 years ago

Reality.

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NuPNuA 18 points 3 years ago

It it me or have we seen a huge influx of Russian apologists on this community in the last few days? I'm not sure if they're tankies or the right as horseshoe is in full effect right now but it's a bit concerning how they're coming out the woodwork all of a sudden. I guess they could just be Russian troll farms following the audience to a new space?

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MercuryUprising 13 points 3 years ago

Almost guaranteed to be trolls, paid or of the useful idiot variety. I've seen them for the last week or so, as Lemmy got big enough to be on their radar now.

Here's a rundown on how paid trolls operate. They have quotas of thousands of posts per day each:
https://www.businessinsider.com/...

You may have noticed some familiar names in the article. It's also worth mentioning that China's 50 cent army is estimated at making 400 million+ posts per year, and that Harvard estimate was from something like 2016. Common sense solution, if it smells like a rat, treat it like a rat until proven otherwise.

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dethb0y 9 points 3 years ago

You know you've hit the big times when the russian trolls show up.

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Some_Emo_Chick 7 points 3 years ago

I would not be surprised.

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Lols 4 points 3 years ago

its tankies

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paciencia -1 points 3 years ago

please stop using this stupid and derogatory term. There are many kinds of leftists that try to make a nuanced analysis of past socialist experiments. While I consider myself a leftist who takes kindly to socialist countries past trials and tribulations, I for one can't fathom why so many marxists choose to support a reactionary regime that frequently flirts with fascism. Still, the word "tankie" is just a strawman that liberals use to shame leftists that dare to conduct real analysis of socialist history. It has lost all meaning and nowadays stands as the liberal version of "woke".

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ghariksforge -14 points 3 years ago

Those of us who don't live in the western world take a different view of world events. It does not make us trolls.

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ghariksforge -27 points 3 years ago

For example, when the NordStream exploded, we were told that Russia did it. It was considered disinformation by the western authorities to question this. It turned out a year later it was a group of Ukrainians.

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HeartyBeast 18 points 3 years ago

Why are you just making things up and spreading misinformation?

Here is the original BBC News coverage from the time (unedited, you can check on the Wayback machine).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63297085

Western leaders have stopped short of directly accusing Russia but the EU has previously accused Russia of using its gas supplies as a weapon against the West over its support for Ukraine.

Meanwhile UKrainian involvement you cite as a fact, is from a NY Times article quoting US intelliegence sources. It's possibly true but has never been stood-up

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64877979

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ghariksforge -15 points 3 years ago

German government knew that Ukrainians blew it up.

Western media pushed the narrative that Russia blew up NordStream because it fit their prejudices.

Here's misinformation for you.

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towerful 8 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure it talks about misinformation, which is not factually accurate information.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation

So, nobody decides.
It's not factually accurate, so it's misinformation.
It's like asking "when something is covered in water, who decides that it is wet?". The majority of the time, the item is going to be wet.

Disinformation is deliberate misinformation.
Proving something is misinformation is likely trivial compared to proving a malicious or deliberate intent behind presenting the misinformation (thus making it disinformation).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation
But disinformation is just pointing the finger at someone over misinformation.
Clearing up misinformation will hamper any disinformation campaign.

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ghariksforge -10 points 3 years ago

Things are usually not as black and white. People who complain about misinformation/disinformation are usually guilty of it themselves.

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prole 5 points 3 years ago

Oh, how convenient for you!

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Gorbachof 4 points 3 years ago

Lol, it's adorable how many people think NATO has any control over global news networks. It kind of flattering that you think the west is that much more powerful than the rest of the world

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prole 3 points 3 years ago

Do you not believe in objective reality?

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ghariksforge -8 points 3 years ago

I believe in objective reality. I don't believe in giving someone the authority to decide what objective reality is.

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prole 3 points 3 years ago

So you don't believe in science? Peer-reviewed studies? It's only valid if you make the hypotheses, and do the experiments yourself?

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ghariksforge -5 points 3 years ago

How much of what you follow on the news follows the scientific process?

I do believe in science. But I also believe that humans will lie and distort the truth when it suits their purpose.

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