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GrainEater 17 points 3 years ago

I will challenge the potato's claim with this tweet

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Eat_Yo_Vegetables69 9 points 3 years ago

You'd better thank them for their service, as we all famously know it was liberals voting that saved the world from the axis powers in WW2 lol

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GrainEater 9 points 3 years ago

I remember when Hitler was faced with a sternly worded petition and had no choice but to surrender, such a wholesome democratic moment

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SovereignState 8 points 3 years ago

RIGHT FR**KNG NOW!!

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SovereignState 13 points 3 years ago

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 9 points 3 years ago

And the upper one didn't even entirely ended the slavery.

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QueerCommie 4 points 3 years ago

Engels would say this about the transition from chattel slavery to wage-slavery. One of his few bad takes.

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Kultronx 3 points 3 years ago

I don't know if I agree with that, unless I misunderstand what you're saying

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 3 points 3 years ago

Did he or you just say he would? This do require citation.

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QueerCommie 2 points 3 years ago

From the Principles of Communism

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 5 points 3 years ago

What you coloured, taken by itself it sounds like pretty nebulous statement because both slaves and proletarians through history could have had very different existences, including the rare cases where slaves did had it better, but read the part after the "," which says that regardless of it, proletarian is always on a higher social level than slave.

In fact, it is completely opposite to your claim that he would say that wage slavery is somehow worse oppresion than chattel slavery.

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QueerCommie 4 points 3 years ago

How so? Engels argues proles are worse off because they are more replaceable as their labor is being bought as opposed to slaves who are owned and therefore more value and less disposable to their master.

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CannotSleep420 4 points 3 years ago

I get your point, but it's not nearly as ridiculous as saying that's when the "real" oppression began.

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QueerCommie 2 points 3 years ago

I know, it’s not exactly the same, it’s just something that came to my mind when I read “that’s when the real oppression began.”

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fire86743 3 points 3 years ago

He had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

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DBVegas 2 points 3 years ago

Lmfao yoooooo

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ksynwa 2 points 3 years ago

He means oppresion of the landlords

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Comrade_River_Otter 1 point 3 years ago

Holy fuck

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