Why Boeing needs to be run by engineers and not bean counters

3 years ago by Now at @aj@gts.sadauskas.id.au to c/engineering

Why Boeing needs to be run by engineers and not bean counters

Really insightful video about what has gone wrong.

Among the points Casey makes is that Boeing imported Jack Welch's GE management culture.

This has included a focus on short-term profits over engineering, and practises such as stack ranking.

Boeing, as a major defence contractor and (direct and indirect) employer, is too big to fail.

And Casey argues that either the Board or, if they're unwilling, the US government, needs to clear out the senior management and introduce an engineer-led management team:

https://youtu.be/d3u7F256wKM

#Boeing #engineer #engineering @engineering #capitalism #business #finance #politics

audiomodder 61 points 3 years ago

This is true for EVERY industry. Ever wonder why there’s not much local investigative journalism anymore? Because news people don’t run news stations. Wonder why it’s mostly sequels in video games and movies? Because game designers and directors/writers don’t run those studios. Wonder why medicine costs so much? Or why food sizes are shrinking? Or …..

The answer is unfettered capitalism.

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doctortofu 19 points 3 years ago

Amen to that. Bean counters and MBAs (yeah, I know, I'm repeating myself) ruin everything they touch, blindly chasing constant rapid growth. But the line DOESN'T have to keep going up forever. I wish more companies operated based on that premise. You DON'T need to monopolize the market, you DON'T need to exceed your quarterly profits every single quarter until the heat death of the universe, there IS such thing as enough money...

I wish I lived in a world like that. It might be slightly less convenient, maybe with slightly fewer choices, but I think it would be a much happier place.

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audiomodder 6 points 3 years ago

What we’re seeing now is one of Gandhi’s dangers of the modern world: commerce without morality. Blame Milton Friedman.

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ogmios -9 points 3 years ago

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davel 7 points 3 years ago

astronaut-2 astronaut-1 marx

The founding fathers started a bourgeois revolution. It was never supposed to be for everyone, despite the colorful we the people rhetoric.

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HaywardT 10 points 3 years ago

Capital markets have been gamed and rules enforcement is near non-existent. Boeing is just one glaring symptom.

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cymbal_king 10 points 3 years ago

John Oliver also featured the company culture issues with Boeing recently https://youtu.be/Q8oCilY4szc?si=GGH_e1_qWlA9qR8T

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davel 8 points 3 years ago

From what I’ve always been told, it was run by engineers before the McDonnell Douglas merger, which was when the military-industrial complex bean counters took over.

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Dagwood222 4 points 3 years ago

I've never met anyone who likes touch screens in cars. They force you to take your eyes off the road, and they often activate because of weather or bumpy roads. The only reason we have them is that a touch screen is cheaper than old fashioned knobs.

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ogmios -4 points 3 years ago

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asif 1 point 2 years ago

I wouldn't say corrupted, as much as "oh I need this job and I can't give it up". I'm probably not the only engineer in this community who's living paycheck to paycheck. Old parents and a really high mortgage lol.

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ogmios 2 points 2 years ago

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asif 2 points 2 years ago

Very very very much agreed. The financial constraints caused by the rich force the middle class engineer look the other way and cut corners.

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