I'm deGoogling. What's my new Podcast app?

2 years ago by The Bard in Green to c/privacy

I've been warming up to switching to GrapheneOS for months. Last month I bought a Pixel 8 (which is the buggiest effing phone I've ever owned, good job Google). I've just been waiting to have the bandwidth.

But with Google sunsetting Google Podcasts, I've decided to make time next week. Podcasts are a MAJOR part of my daily functioning.

Fake4000 112 points 2 years ago

Antennapod hands down.

Works great and have been using it for years.

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peetabix 8 points 2 years ago

Its also what i'm using. Its the best podcast app I've used.

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littletranspunk 2 points 2 years ago

I especially like the volume options for individual podcasts. Some are a standard volume and then others are quiet as fuck and the few are loud as hell.

Knowing these allows me to play different podcasts after another without having to either raise the volume or frantically lower the volume to prevent hearing loss.

I honestly can't see myself using any other podcast app after discovering AntennaPod

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RobotDaniel 61 points 2 years ago

Antennapod is good

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SecurityPro 19 points 2 years ago

Agreed, grab AntennaPod from the f-droid store.

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shortwavesurfer 4 points 2 years ago

Have you heard of Escape Pod? It is really simple. And I enjoy it because of its simplicity. Its on fdroid.

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negativenull 1 point 2 years ago

Escapepod is the best.

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PoliticallyIncorrect 2 points 2 years ago

It is paid?

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backhdlp 13 points 2 years ago

foss

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PoliticallyIncorrect 0 points 2 years ago

👍👍

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mac 6 points 2 years ago

Just downloaded it, loads of features, free and doesn't have a premium option.

I was using Pocket Casts which locks few features behind a paywall and pushes it. I don't really like having things in the UI that are locked by a paywall, it's fine if the app has more features and an option somewhere to pay for them but don't clutter my general day to day use with advertising.

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PoliticallyIncorrect 0 points 2 years ago

👍👍

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rizoid 30 points 2 years ago

AntennaPod is great and Audiobookshelf is my preferred app, if you're into self hosting services.

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ikidd 29 points 2 years ago

Antennapod on Android and Kasts on Linux, synced via Gpoddersync on Nextcloud.

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Tamo240 5 points 2 years ago

Just recently switched from spotify to antenna pod and can recommend it so far, especially as a lover of any app that will give you stats/graphs.

Only small issue is when playing there are two options: stream, and download. It seems that unlike spotify, stream does not buffer at all, so if you lose connection the player immediately stops. For me I can resolve this by downloading the episodes before I leave for my commute, but something to be aware of.

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aedyr 4 points 2 years ago

AntennaPod has been working really well for me.

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cyberwolfie 2 points 2 years ago

My setup as well, and happy with that.

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FriendBesto 2 points 2 years ago

This is a great combo choice.

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BadNewsNobody 21 points 2 years ago

I use PocketCasts but all of the responses here are making me consider trying out AntennaPod.

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krash 8 points 2 years ago

I was a pocketcast user for years, switched to antennapod a few months ago. Here's what's bothering me:

  • Antennapod has a weird separation between new episodes (inbox) and what you're listening to now (queue). PC has that abstracted away where you only have to check one place for your podcasts.
  • There is no simple service to sync your subscriptions and listen progress. Gpoddersync is basically abandoned and the protocol lacks features. Hopefully this will change with openpodcastAPI, but they haven't managed to secure funding yet.
  • I've been spoilt by having a server doing the heavy lifting of refreshing my podcasts. It's a minor annoyance that I need to wait approx. 1.5 second per feed to refresh. It's just the way it is.

There are also things that antennapod does better:

  • chapters actually works in AP.
  • episode pictures also works in AP, PC only showed the static image of the feed.
  • search is just as good as PC.
  • its FOSS and hopefully resistant to enshittification (unless all producers go into a closed ecosystem like Spotify tried with their recent purchases of pod-studios).

Best of luck from another pod-nerd.

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octopus_ink 2 points 2 years ago

I’ve been spoilt by having a server doing the heavy lifting of refreshing my podcasts. It’s a minor annoyance that I need to wait approx. 1.5 second per feed to refresh. It’s just the way it is.

In the podcast settings for each podcast, does "Keep Updated" not handle this for you? I don't think I ever manually refresh my podcasts. Apologies if I'm misunderstanding.

Antennapod has a weird separation between new episodes (inbox) and what you’re listening to now (queue). PC has that abstracted away where you only have to check one place for your podcasts.

I don't like the queue myself, though possibly for different reasons than you. Again possibly misunderstanding your concern, but I have "Enqueue Downloaded" and "Continuous Playback" both disabled in the Antennapod settings, and I just pretend the queue doesn't exist.

Just throwing those things out there in the hopes they may help.

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krash 3 points 2 years ago

You're actually understanding my issues quite well 🙂

The "keep updated" works, but I try to keep it to twice a day to have my battery last longer. So I manually trigger in-between. It's a natural consequence of the technical choice, really.

As for the "Enqueue downloaded", I stream everything as I have a massive mobile data plan. Due to this, I can stream a lot but I still have to deal with a separation between inbox/queue.

Thanks for those suggestions, I'm sure they'll be of help for others that's not part of my edge case 😁

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octopus_ink 2 points 2 years ago

Ah thanks for the reply, and sorry I couldn't solve any of your issues. 🙂

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BadNewsNobody 1 point 2 years ago

Thanks for the detailed info!

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akilou 5 points 2 years ago

I use pocket casts and I tried switching to antenna pod because of a thread like this one and came right back to pocket casts. The deal breaker for me was no skip forward 30 seconds (e.g. ads) from the lock screen.

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cyberic 23 points 2 years ago

For you or others who are curious and want to do this:

AntennaPod settings > User Interface > Set playback buttons.

You can decide what shows up in your notification on your lock screen.

Also make sure to toggle Persistent Playback Controls on.

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aulin 1 point 2 years ago

I did the same. I haven't switched back yet, but I'm very close. Audio doesn't continue playback when connecting to Android Auto, the screen shows suggestions instead of the queue, and silence trimming is all-or-nothing. Also, and this is just personal preference, the UI isn't as intuitive.

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tyrant 0 points 2 years ago

Same

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Freeman 18 points 2 years ago

I have Podcast Addict, I think its free but I paid a few dollars because of the great selection of settings and options I never knew I needed.

(For example I have it configured so that after 5pm the Sleeptimer automatically makes the podcast fade down and pausing after 10' of listening, unless I move/shake the phone during the fade down-part, then it extends for another 10'. Perfect for using it in public transport or in bed and dozing off.)

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runner_g 8 points 2 years ago

I also have been using podcast addict, probably for over 10 years now. You can autodownload new episodes (mine checks daily at 7a and 7p), create custom playlists for juggling multiple podcasts at once, has android auto support, and you don't have to deal with the bs of Spotify.

I'm sure there are a 100 other features I don't know about, but that's what I use.

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GraniteM 3 points 2 years ago

I like the ability to adjust playback speed. I listen to everything at 1.1 and it just feels like everyone tightened up their delivery a little bit and took out dead air. There was one podcast where the subject was interesting but the delivery was agonizingly slow, so I turned it all the way up to 1.5.

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bytesmythe 1 point 2 years ago

The History of English podcast is like that... I think I had it turned up to 2x just to make it sound normal.

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sensiblepuffin 6 points 2 years ago

PodcastAddict is the way, but only if you're tolerant/patient with nerd knobs. I know a lot of people get turned off by those.

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QuantumBamboo 10 points 2 years ago

Not my wife

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unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov 3 points 2 years ago

You lucky bastard. 😁

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nonfuinoncuro 4 points 2 years ago

Shit I've been using PA forever too but I feel like I should try that other one everyone keeps posting about

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candywashing 17 points 2 years ago

Antenna Pod is great. Podverse is also pretty decent, especially for downloading as an .mp3

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PunkiBas 3 points 2 years ago

I've been trying podverse, but for some reason it uses Google Admob. So if he's trying to degoogle it's not a viable alternative

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DolphinMath 1 point 2 years ago

@podverse@podcastindex.social

Is this accurate? Last I recall, the F-droid version was free of any of Google’s tracking?

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candywashing 1 point 2 years ago

Daaammn, good to know, thanks

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DolphinMath 1 point 2 years ago
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delirious_owl 15 points 2 years ago

AntennaPod.

Just search fdroid

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Gutless2615 11 points 2 years ago

Audiobookshelf! Self hosted and perfect for audiobooks and podcasts alike. And bonus: you ca archive all those hardcore histories before they get off the free stream.

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Passerby6497 2 points 2 years ago

Hard disagree, unless I'm missing something. I just set up ABS in the last week to have all of my podcasts self hosted along with my audiobook collection. So far, I've seen multiple features missing that make it untenable for podcasts on my phone, including:

  • App on my phone doesn't auto-download episodes

  • App doesn't autoplay the next episode

    • Hitting next only plays the last few seconds of my last episode
  • Default sort is newest first, haven't figured out how to permanently set it to oldest first

  • No automatic playlist of all episodes of a series downloaded

I like it for audiobooks, but the podcast side feels very much like an afterthought. I'll probably be moving to another podcast platform at some point. ABS is usable for podcasts, but at this point I wouldn't recommend it for that feature unless they're ok with lack of standard features or already have it set up.

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Gutless2615 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah I think you might be missing something tbh. My Audiobookshelf auto downloads new episodes, playlist features work fine, sort features work fine. I don’t know if there’s a way to throw every downloaded but not yet listened to episode in a playlist, but I haven’t ever needed that feature. For keeping up with my podcasts though across platforms and for all my day to day podcast needs it has excelled.

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Passerby6497 1 point 2 years ago

Is it downloading them to your app, or just to your server? My server downloads just fine, I've just had a couple instances where I haven't been able to continue what I was listening to after leaving the house.

As for playlists, I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. I created one playlist but it was more work to use than just using the feed. Haven't been able to get it to play next tracks on podcasts at all, which has been rather frustrating. Might just be an issue with the app.

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backhdlp 9 points 2 years ago

I use AntennaPod on my phone and Castero (TUI) on my computer.

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shortwavesurfer 9 points 2 years ago

Antennapod is really great, but I found that it's more complicated than I like. So I found another player called escape pod on fdroid that I really, really enjoy because of its KISS approach.

Edit: Oh, and congratulations. I have been degoogled entirely for about 2 years now and mostly degoogled for about 3 years before that.

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Lettuceeatlettuce 8 points 2 years ago

Good job, you're making a good choice! I'm on a Pixel 6 running GrapheneOS, love it. Takes a bit if TLC at the beginning, but it's really nice and functional for me now.

For podcasts, I use Podverse. Works well for me, and runs well on GrapheneOS.

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DolphinMath 5 points 2 years ago

Podverse is a solid choice. It’s also cross-platform if that matters to you. Antenna-pod is another good choice.

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Turbo 1 point 2 years ago

+1 for Podverse

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Manmoth 1 point 2 years ago

I really love Podverse but ended up going back to Pocketcasts for the Android Auto support. They have a bounty out for the feature. I'll switch back if they ever get it.

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linuxoveruser 3 points 2 years ago

I recently switched from Google Podcasts to Podcini (fork of Antennapod) and it's great so far

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catculation 3 points 2 years ago

Check out Podcini which is a fork of Antenapod but with all the latest android libraries and apis

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Duke_Nukem_1990 3 points 2 years ago

Since a lot of people have recommended antennapod: does anyone of you also have that weird problem where podcasts randomly skip backwards from anywhere as little as five seconds to a minute during normal playback?

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ProperlyProperTea 3 points 2 years ago

I have this too on occasion! Although, I think I had this problem on another podcast player before I switched.

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robsuto 3 points 2 years ago

Yes! I thought it was just me. Any idea how to resolve?

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Duke_Nukem_1990 7 points 2 years ago

Set playback speed to max. The podcast will now have less time to skip until it is over. taps head

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Schlemmy 3 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the lolz. I needed that.

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pdxfed 2 points 2 years ago

93 nominations for the same thing, means I'm probably the wrong answer but I don't Graphene, but I was degoogling and found PlayerFM listed among good Free Open Source Software FOSS options. Hope it works as Graphene option.

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clay_pidgin 1 point 2 years ago

I don't use graphene (yet?) but Player FM is pretty good. I had their paid plan for years. I'm on PocketCasts now.

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nafzib 2 points 2 years ago

I love Player.fm

They have both an android app with a lot of good features (stream or download, can set how many episodes to download at a time, when to delete old ones, all per podcast and as global defaults, set up your own categories/lists, display order, play order, etc) and an actual web site where you can log in and listen to your stuff as well with synced history, so you can pick up pretty much at the exact spot you paused a podcast on your phone (or vice versa).

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TunaLobster 2 points 2 years ago

I'm using PodcastRepublic on Android right now. It does a fantastic job of organizing my daily playlist for exactly what order I prefer to listen to episodes. The down side is that there is no easy way to translate this nice playlist stuff to the browser website. The state of the website is "mostly functional" and plays audio. Not much else. There is no sync to the Android app.

What I am going to try next is Audiobookshelf with a python script on their API to get the same playlist sorting features. I've got the architecture written out, but haven't gotten the time to write the code.

Reading into gpodder here is making want to give that a try, but the only website listed on this table doesn't say it syncs playback progress.

So what I'm looking for is something this can sort playlists like PodcastRepublic and sync playback progress like PocketCasts. AFAIK that combo doesn't exist right now.

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spez_ 2 points 2 years ago

Audiobookshelf

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gortbrown 1 point 2 years ago

I personally like Podverse.

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Mikelius 1 point 2 years ago

If you self host nextcloud, another option is to put the rss feeds for your favorite podcasts into the news app. I listen to all of my podcasts through that.

However... I'd totally be interested in a better self hosted podcast app that allows me to see a record of everything I've listened to, while also allowing me to download the episodes to my phone, lol. That's the only reason I'm stuck on the news app still.

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TunaLobster 2 points 2 years ago

Audiobookshelf is self-hosted and has an Android app. Playback is synced between everything.

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LilaOrchidee 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe the gpoddersync-nextcloud app is more your thing? You can use that with all podcastapps that support gpodder sync. Works with Antennapod on Android and Kasts on KDE/Kubuntu.

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Mikelius 2 points 2 years ago

Oooo I don't know how I missed that one. Nice, I'll have to check that out, thanks!!

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anothermember -3 points 2 years ago

Nothing beats just downloading a podcast and listening to it in VLC or you audio player of choice - I don't really understand why podcast apps are needed.

But that said, if you need to use one AntennaPod has all the features and you can even get it on F-Droid.

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null 7 points 2 years ago

A nice interface to search for shows, automatically download new episodes, listening history, options to trim silence, sync between multiple devices.

Nobody needs them, but of course people want them.

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anothermember 1 point 2 years ago

The problem is for me that it usually downloads to some obscure folder, not to where I want to save and archive my podcasts.

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null 1 point 2 years ago

Any podcast app I've used saves them wherever it needs to be able to read them.

I think saving and archiving podcasts is a niche use-case. I've jumped between apps and I just go resubscribe to the shows I want. If I need to find an old episode, I just go to that show and stream or download that episode.

I can't think of a reason why I'd need to keep those files stored anywhere.

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anothermember 1 point 2 years ago

If you don't really care about the podcast then that's OK, but if I like a podcast I want a permanent offline copy to relisten to if the podcast goes offline. I guess I'm a bit of a data-hoarder and that's niche, but simply being able to save a file you download to where you want I think should be a standard feature, there's no need for an extra layer of abstraction.

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Floggmuff -10 points 2 years ago

Podcasts? Idk i use only rumble and YouTube. My reply probably isn’t that helpful

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mac 13 points 2 years ago

"My reply probably isn't helpful" - replies anyway... CONFIDENCE.

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sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 2 years ago

Same. That said, I've been trying it Grayjay and like it okay so far. So far I only have Odysee and YouTube channels, and I'll be looking out for other services as well (thinking of trying a Nebula account).

It's not useful for podcasts, but there are podcasts on services it supports, so depending on what OP is looking for, it could work.

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Evotech -16 points 2 years ago

Spotify? I mean most are there

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TwinTusks 7 points 2 years ago

Spotify is terrible for podcasts

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mholiv 4 points 2 years ago

Spotify isn’t really a podcast app. Just a proprietary streaming service. Podcasts by definition are media files delivered by RSS and Spotify isn’t that.

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Evotech 1 point 2 years ago

I don't think RSS and filetype is what I would use to define podcasts...

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mholiv 6 points 2 years ago

Consider yourself one of today’s 10.000. :)

What differentiates a podcast from other forms of media like YouTube is that it is delivered via RSS feeds. This lets people subscribe to the podcast using any sort of RSS reader or standards compliant podcast app.

RSS is an open source standard way subscribe to a stream of content. Sort of like a proto version of pub/sub protocol that the fediverse uses.

The reason why podcasts took off in the first place was that any mp3 player (or now days smart phone) could receive the media by subscribing to the open standards RSS feed. There was no proprietary lock in.

Mega corps obviously are not a fan of that so they try to lock people into their services regardless of this open standard. When Spotify did that exclusivity deal with Joe Rogen it was very controversial because it took the most popular podcast of the time and turned it into a proprietary media stream that you can only listen to on Spotify.

https://github.com/...

Podcasting is the preparation and distribution of audio files using RSS feeds to the devices of subscribed users.

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