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atocci 47 points 3 years ago

Does this have anything to do with the prevalence of the Steam Deck?

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SchrodingersPat 31 points 3 years ago

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EnglishMobster 29 points 3 years ago

Steam Deck honestly convinced me to move my desktop over to Linux.

I'm still dual-booting, but I only go into Windows if something struggles too much over Proton (looking at you Satisfactory). I've been daily driving KDE Neon for about 2 months without issues.

Plasma is a great desktop environment, too. Usually the desktop environments were what chased me away - GNOME was slow sometimes and always felt... off, Cinnamon doesn't like multiple desktops despite claiming to, with the maintainers refusing to even acknowledge the problems, XFE is... XFE, and historically Plasma was always super crashy and bloated.

Valve's been funding the KDE guys to make Plasma better and it really shows. Plasma feels like a modern desktop that can compete with Windows directly - and honestly beats Windows with how bad Windows 11 has become. (Last time I was in Windows it took the Windows 11 Start Menu a full 20 seconds to open - but don't worry, it had time to serve me an ad for Xbox Game Pass.)

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Duke_Nukem_1990 8 points 3 years ago

Same! Just switched over to this nifty distro called EndeavourOS... Yeah, I use arch btw 😎

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SchrodingersPat 8 points 3 years ago

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SchrodingersPat 5 points 3 years ago

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D_Air1 3 points 3 years ago

I've seen at least one article of Valve funding some work on kwin for a short time, but nothing of them funding the actual desktop. Do you know of any sources for that?

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EnglishMobster 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I can't find the source I originally read it from (I think it was on the KDE subreddit from a KDE dev there), but they gave a talk about it recently. I've only skimmed the talk but they do speak pretty heavily about KDE collaborating with Valve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0gEIeFgDX0

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Ticktok 2 points 3 years ago

You basically described me exactly when I switched. Switched to Endeavour OS Nov2021 and I've been so happy with the change. Steam Deck was definitely my inspiration and reason I chose an arch based distro with KDE(I'd also always preferred kde from my previous Linux forays). I game everyday, and at this point I consider myself Linux proficient. I rarely need to look up commands. Other than games I rarely need to use any non native software, but when I do running it through Bottles usually works. Next step is to finally upgrade my aging 1070ti to an AMD card.

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fulano 12 points 3 years ago

Everything adds a little. Another thing happening are the newer Windows versions requiring stupidly high minimum requirements, pushing people with older machines into alternatives.

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ghariksforge 4 points 3 years ago

Proton is wine+dxvk packaged by Valve (pkus a few other libs). The work the wine teams did in thr last decades has been heroic.

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neo 3 points 3 years ago

I wouldn't be able to live in gnu/linux full time without wine and proton. It just wouldn't happen since gaming is a huge part of what I do on my computer.

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Oliper202020 21 points 3 years ago

I think it's a combination of the steam deck, people learning that Linux isn't really that hard, and Microsoft breaking there reputation by spitting out windows 11 when they promised that windows 10 would be the last, and windows 11 having higher requirements so people with older computers is now looking at alternatives and the people who haven't switched to 11 being stressed about windows 12 comming, and then therefore searching for alternatives

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SubArcticTundra 40 points 3 years ago

At this rate, Linux domination will be unavoidable by checks calculations 2993!

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metal696heart 10 points 3 years ago

And you know what? this might actually be true. Where do we buy shares ?

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 5 points 3 years ago

There's definitely a long way to go, but as more people start using Linux adoption is likely to accelerate. You're more likely to switch if you know someone personally who already uses it and can help you get over the initial hurdles, and the more people who use it the more attention it'll get from hardware and software vendors, making them more likely to support Linux directly instead of so much relying on compatibility layers and reverse-engineered drivers.

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morrowind 3 points 3 years ago

Growth follows an S shaped curve, so (should) be sooner

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SubArcticTundra 1 point 3 years ago

That's true. I wonder what the threshold rate of adoption is for the 'S' to start

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bilboswaggings 3 points 3 years ago

2193 factorial, yeah maybe

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TheMrDrProf 33 points 3 years ago

Still forever hopeful for the day that making PC games native for Linux is a norm.

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SchrodingersPat 14 points 3 years ago

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TheMrDrProf 1 point 3 years ago

Totally agree. Squad is one of the few few reasons I have a windows install.

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aski3252 2 points 3 years ago

I have been playing squad on linux without any issues for a while now, I don't think I even had to do any tinkering.

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TheMrDrProf 1 point 3 years ago

Oh man, I haven’t tried in a hot bit. Will have to give it a shot again. Thanks!

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RogueTyre 1 point 3 years ago

Is it possible to cheat those anti cheats with a VM? Been trying to switch to Fedora but still contemplating if proton could run everything I need without too many bugs and issues.

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sv1sjp 1 point 3 years ago

Did you try with KVM and some tweaks to pretend that it is areal world machine?

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nuvpr 3 points 3 years ago

That'll happen when glibc stops breaking everything with each new update. That is, never.

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labsin 2 points 3 years ago

Newer linux games on steam are compiled to run in containers in the same way as a flatpak. They could break it a security patch would break some vague hack in de game, but these should be minimal. These containers are only released ever other year and keep being supported so there isn't really any serious compatible problem there. The first Linux games on steam like team fortress 2 ran partially on the system libraries and that caused lots of problems, especially when these get older.

With the snipperred Linux desktop, containers are the only viable solution.

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ghariksforge 32 points 3 years ago

The SteamDeck has been a huge gamechanger (pun intended!). All video games work now.

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PopOfAfrica 11 points 3 years ago

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keeeener 6 points 3 years ago

what is the website again that we can check which games are supported in Linux and which aren't?

it's literally the only thing holding me back from switching but I need to triple check to make sure all good... don't have any extra devices I can duel boot from ATM so it would be a full 100% switch

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ghariksforge 11 points 3 years ago

There is protondb and winehq

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keeeener 2 points 3 years ago

many thanks!!

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Nyanix 1 point 3 years ago

I also like areweanticheatyet

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Dogeek 4 points 3 years ago

ProtonDb and lutris

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Moxvallix 24 points 3 years ago

Thus marking the 30th year of the linux desktop.

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Sterben 21 points 3 years ago

I think mostly thanks to Steam Deck. I have one, and it is probably one of the best gaming device I ever bought.

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HouseWolf 14 points 3 years ago

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BrokenToshy 3 points 3 years ago

Only thing preventing me from switching is the fact games with anti-cheat are pretty much fucked on Linux unfortunately

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Valmond 1 point 3 years ago

I only play old low CPU/GPU demanding games :-)

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HouseWolf 1 point 3 years ago

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socsa 3 points 3 years ago

For everyday browser workflows I'm not sure why anyone would use anything else. Microsoft literally only keeps windows relevant by making sure pptx will never be standards compliant. Other than gaming, that's literally the only thing forcing me to use windows or macOS these days. Company requirements to have native PowerPoint.

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Sterben 1 point 3 years ago

I am a Linux Student User, they gove me a presentation to do, and I simply used the PowerPoint Online Tool.

Of course, it might lack some features, but for an assignment every once and a while, was perfectly fine.

For the rest I always use Libre Office to complete my assignments, and convert the file to PDF afterward.

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Sethayy 7 points 3 years ago

This only counts web users, so probably actually underrepresented deck users (cause who's browsing the web on their deck)

Also doesn't count Firefox users

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tappyturtle 4 points 3 years ago

Isn't that the main browser for like, most Linux users?

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moonmeow 19 points 3 years ago

For Desktops. Nice. I'd like to see numbers that include servers, steam decks, androids, etc..

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metal696heart 6 points 3 years ago

I bet Adobe will target linux in the next 30 years.

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Datas_Cat_Spot 17 points 3 years ago

3% of all computers is pretty damn significant.

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Hovenko 29 points 3 years ago

You mean desktop computers.

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Datas_Cat_Spot 5 points 3 years ago

Ah gotcha, but still. Damn.

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defame 31 points 3 years ago

No, you don't get it. It's even more impressive, since other categories are already dominated by Linux. Desktop is the last holdout, and it's changing

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Datas_Cat_Spot 5 points 3 years ago

Oh wow! My bad, I'm a Linux novice. I just subbed because I'm interested in getting started.

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Zeth0s 20 points 3 years ago

Of all computers Linux as kernel is probably well above 90%. Here they are talking about desktop OS, that is a small part of all computers

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ekky43 8 points 3 years ago

Just a technicality, but Linux makes out 3% of the Desktop OS market share. The percentage is rather different when looking at "all computers".

Edit: didn't see the other comments, sorry for spamming.

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moonmeow 16 points 3 years ago

Give it more time. As Microsoft cuts support for perfectly good working hardware, people will learn about this magical free and open source software operating system of many varieties they can choose from, and with a little nudge and a beginner friendly variant (linux mint, ubuntu), they too will learn to love linux.

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dontcarebear 14 points 3 years ago

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MasterCelebrator 9 points 3 years ago

Well up until they try to run Software that isnt supported on Linux. Dont get me wrong, i like Linux (have it on my laptop that i only use occasionally) and i really want to switch completely. But i have some Software that i need and it just doesnt run on Linux or needs huge amounts of workarounds or tweakings that can break any time. So Every time i want to switch i end up on Windows again. And i know, this isnt entirely Linux Fault but the companies who are unwilling to make their Software compatible.

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moonmeow 4 points 3 years ago

Ya software and hardware support like drivers has historically been pretty bad and I still rely on non Linux computer for a few programs.

More and more I'm just opting for the Foss alternative if available and suitable.

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MasterCelebrator 5 points 3 years ago

Yes i also tend to prefer foss if available and suitable. The problem is that sometimes there is no adequate alternative. In my case its music production. Sure there are foss alternatives on Linux, but to be honest in a lot of cases they dont even come close to professional proprietary Software. On top of that i spent hundreds of Euro on music hard and Software, that either just runs on Linux with huge amounts of tweakings and drawbacks or just doesnt run at all. And i am not Willing to give up my soft and Hardware Stack that i built up over the last years. I also thought about running all this stuff over Windows in a VM, but then im basically in Windows again and i think this defeats the purpose of Switching to Linux.

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moonmeow 1 point 3 years ago

Same. I know ableton or some native instrument software and unfortunately I'm not even gonna try and make them work with wine because I think it just wouldn't fully work and glitch.

It is frustrating because I think the new standalone version of push is running some Linux variant?

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NotYourSocialWorker 1 point 3 years ago

My hope is that as the Linux numbers creep up the companies support of Linux will also go up. Not sure where that breakpoint may be though.

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yoz 16 points 3 years ago

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RebornAsh 3 points 3 years ago

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Pulp 3 points 3 years ago

Thats exactly it.

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RebornAsh 1 point 3 years ago

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WagnasT 15 points 3 years ago

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I use arch btw.

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confusedbytheBasics 12 points 3 years ago

Do desktops really matter in 2023? What fraction of computers are desktops now? Most computers are phones and servers last time I checked. As we all know Linux dominates there.

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Master 31 points 3 years ago

I have one phone... I've got three desktops at home, one laptops plus two steamdecks, two servers and one ipad we never use.

At work we have 15 desktops plus 2 servers and 4 laptops.

I dont know how people live with just a phone as a "computer". I couldnt even live with just a laptop... Like what are you people doing just browsing tiktok and youtube?

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0ddysseus 13 points 3 years ago

Yel that's exactly what they do. I've asked around, and at a guess, half the people I know only have a phone. Whole families just using a phone each to look at YouTube and tiktok, do banking talk to friends on WhatsApp, Snapchat, Facebook. They watch tv, play sport, go out socialising, shopping, etc. They honestly have no use for a PC at all

A huge percentage of people don't use a computer at work either.

Its easy to get lost in tech, but in reality the vast majority of people in this world just have no use for desktops or laptops.

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MR_ 10 points 3 years ago

I don't imagine a lot of people bar PC gamers do much more than watch media or consume social media on their devices, so a phone fits the bill.

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Cabrio 3 points 3 years ago

So they want a TV not a Computer.

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AZERTY 3 points 3 years ago

My zoomer coworker said he doesn't need a tv and I was like wtf.

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Bene7rddso 3 points 3 years ago

Yes, but one that fits in my pocket. I wanna watch on my way to work

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MR_ 2 points 3 years ago

Yup let me just take my 50inch TV to the gym, on the train, to work for my lunch breaks etc…

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Sacha 1 point 3 years ago

But I can't mod games on consoles that you plug into the TV. Also my specs are better. :C

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confusedbytheBasics 6 points 3 years ago

I have a desktop and 4 laptops, zero tablets, and one phone. Of course they all boot linux by default. But I know I'm an outlier. I hang out with average families. They have maybe one desktop, two to three laptops (of which about half are school chromebooks), a Playstation/Switch/XBox, and one phone per person. Plus the computers they use most are not in their house they are servers in data centers. The machines they possess are really just interfaces to the computers they actually rely on.

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100_kg_90_de_belin 2 points 3 years ago

Well, technically Instagram as well.

Anyway, I can't stand writing a long email on my phone, I don't what kind of "computer tasks" people are carrying out on them

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Comment105 2 points 3 years ago

From what I've understood, it's mostly emails.

Lots of short and sloppy half-assed emails with the most shitty formatting they could manage. That's how many people computer.

That and TikTok.

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socsa 10 points 3 years ago

If you work in ML or scientific computing then it has been the year of the Linux desktop for about a decade now.

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confusedbytheBasics 6 points 3 years ago

Very true. A lot of the SciComp and ML folks I know use a McBook Air as the keyboard/mouse for their real machine which sits under their desk and eats 1200W while it works.

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socsa 3 points 3 years ago

Yup. This has been my life for a while now. MacOS is an expensive, but competent ssh client. And my personal daily driver is Ubuntu. I went through an arch and Gentoo phase, but Ubuntu is fine tbh.

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morrowind 2 points 3 years ago

There's a good deal more laptops than desktops. They're included. And since a good amount of the traffic is from no doubt steam deck, I guess that covers mobile as well (not really, but still, better than nothing)

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Bene7rddso 1 point 3 years ago

Don't forget Android

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synack 12 points 3 years ago

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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Uniquitous 5 points 3 years ago

Thank you Richard, we're aware.

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Comment105 3 points 3 years ago

I had no fucking idea, on the other hand.

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Rengoku 4 points 3 years ago

I've seen this kind of post rehashed many times in this exact kind of thread 😂

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Maddison 11 points 3 years ago

Does anyone think this number can be more than what's being reported? If I am not wrong, some Linux users are very privacy concerned and probably might not like to scream to the world that they are using Linux, it can't be 1% or anything like that, but I reckon it's greater than 0.1% of desktop users

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Uniquitous 9 points 3 years ago

Meanwhile, the servers, containers, and phones are all running some flavor of *nix. But yeah, nice to have a little toehold in desktop-land, I guess.

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sounddrill 9 points 3 years ago

I don't think people know how big of a feat this is. This list could be full of "gaming laptop grandmas" or casual macbook users who just use it for word/excel.

No shame in either of that, the first one is quite cool but I think that 3% is a lot, especially by a metric that actively includes non tech savvy people

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MyFairJulia 8 points 3 years ago

So guys we did it!

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Zerush 8 points 3 years ago

I think that Linux in the future is going to take off like a rocket, when Windows carries out its plans to move to an Online OS by monthly subscription, to get full control over the user and his PC. This is sure to make any user with more than half a brain to switch.

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Maddison 8 points 3 years ago

I wanted to read the article but Goddamn it!

https://linuxiac.com/...

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Pulp 2 points 3 years ago

Linux enthusiasts rejoice! After a long journey, according to StatCounter’s data, by June 2023, Linux has achieved a 3% desktop market share.

Linux has a long history that dates back more than 30 years. However, it has never been as popular among regular computer users as other operating systems such as Microsft’s Windows or Apple’s macOS.

Of course, for many years, Linux has emerged as a dominant force in the realm of server operating systems. Due to its exceptional performance, stability, reliability, and security, it has been widely adopted in server/cloud/IoT environments.

However, these days, Linux is no longer limited to these environments alone; it is rapidly gaining momentum as an operating system of choice for many desktop users, especially developers.

And the most recent figures confirm this, giving all advocates of Linux and open source in general reason to rejoice. Linux Operating System Achieved a 3% Desktop Market Share

According to StatCounter, a web analytics company, by June 2023, Linux has reached a 3% market share in the desktop segment. This is a remarkable achievement considering its fierce competition from other operating systems. Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide Desktop Operating System Market Share Worldwide

While someone may seem the figure modest, it signifies a growing acceptance and recognition of the power and versatility of Linux.

In any case, the achievement of a 3% market share by Linux is undoubtedly a cause for celebration among its dedicated community. It reflects the growing recognition of Linux’s strengths and the efforts to overcome its historical barriers.

Moreover, with the continued development and innovation within the Linux ecosystem, its market share will continue growing in the coming years.

The growing importance of cloud computing and the rise of server infrastructure have also contributed to Linux’s success. Still, the main reason for reaching this figure is the operating system’s growing popularity among desktop users.

With exceptionally easy-to-use and entirely user-centric Linux desktop distributions, the operating system is no longer what it was 20 years ago – a complex equation available only to highly technically enlightened hackers. Linux Growing Popularity among Desktop Users Linux with GNOME Desktop. Linux with GNOME Desktop.

Yes, I know. Over the last 10+ years, each one has often been heralded as “Linux on the Desktop,” although it turns out that’s not quite the case. But still, we’re close to that point now. And for good reasons. Free, Lightweight & Customizable

The main appealing aspect of Linux for desktop users is its lightweight nature, free from corporate bloatware, and especially the limitless customization options.

It allows users to tailor their desktop environment to suit their preferences and workflow. With a vast selection of desktop environments like GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and many others, users can choose the one that best aligns with their needs. Valuing User Privacy

Another important factor driving Linux’s growing popularity among desktop users is privacy. Compared to other mainstream operating systems, Linux generally collects no user data.

While some distributions may try to collect basic telemetry data for improvement purposes, the level of data collection is typically minimal and can be disabled or opted out of entirely. This aspect appeals to privacy-conscious individuals who prefer more control over their personal information. Linux is a Developer’s Dream Come True

Linux has long been the operating system of choice for developers worldwide, and its allure continues to grow.

First and foremost, Linux’s open-source nature empowers developers with unparalleled freedom. They can access and modify the source code, customize their environments, and contribute to the community, fostering collaboration and innovation.

Furthermore, performance is also a crucial factor. Linux’s efficiency, scalability, and ability to run on diverse hardware architectures make it ideal for resource-intensive tasks.

Lastly, its command-line interface and powerful scripting capabilities offer flexibility and automation, streamlining development workflows. Bottom Line

So, as Linux enthusiasts rejoice, it is essential to remember that the journey does not end here. Linux has proven its worth, and its rise to a 3% desktop market share is a testament to its resilience and adaptability in the desktop field.

With ongoing advancements and increased support from the Open Source community and businesses, Linux is poised to become an even more formidable player in the world of operating systems.

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wdx 2 points 3 years ago

How dare you use a VPN!

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morrowind 2 points 3 years ago

Blocked for me without a vpn as well, not sure what's going on.

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RebornAsh 1 point 3 years ago

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Fabrik872 7 points 3 years ago

For me 2016 was year of linux desktop since than i started using linux. And if i see linux in the wild it is very often Ubuntu 16.04 with that beautifull Unity DE.

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TwoGems 7 points 3 years ago

Ribbit

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N00b22 5 points 3 years ago

That's why I use Windows 11.

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ReakDuck 2 points 3 years ago

Windows 11 got worse than Windows 10 in my opinion. But I somehow prefer to use Windows 11 Ameliorated (Enshitificated from Microsoft services) for VR gaming only. Rest is just Arch Lunix

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littlecolt 2 points 3 years ago

Wait, no, go back

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MarioBarisa 5 points 3 years ago

It will happen sooner or later

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nebulung 5 points 3 years ago

The Year of the Linux Desktop is now 🐧

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Anamana 5 points 3 years ago

Is Android included?

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magmaus3 7 points 3 years ago

most likely no

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Anamana 2 points 3 years ago

Makes sense

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ben 4 points 3 years ago

No. Its using https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/ as the source, where the 3 percent is from the desktop category.
Overall android has the biggest market share at 40% with windows as a runnerup at 28%.

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killerinstinct101 3 points 3 years ago

What's with the weird dip in windows usage and uptick in "unknown" usage?

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AllegedHoister 2 points 3 years ago

Maybe some builds of Windows erroneously counting as "unknown" then correcting?

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ben 1 point 3 years ago

Windows looks qute consistent to me. Android has a dip though, which could be caused by usage patterns, looking at the previous years the peak of phone usage is around summer. It could also be changes between browser versions and to some extend extensions for those browsers (firefox allows for extensions on mobile).

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Simplesyrup 0 points 3 years ago

Pffft windows is the most unconsistant looking pile of UI trash in the world, they can't even stack up with Gnome and windows is on most pc's. Their design is ugly and when u go into settings u have win 10 and old win 7 ui elements in their "new windows 11 system" Pfft so glad I wiped windows from my PC for a better and more stream lined OS

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MeshPotato 1 point 3 years ago

Looking at that sudden increase in OS X usage, I assume its related to the M1 chip? Although I still wouldn't touch apple with a 6foot pole. People love to shit on Microsoft, at least they tend to treat their staff well. Everyone seems to have forgotten that Apple fitted nets at their Foxconn factory.

I can als troubleshoot any OS except stuff made by the fruit business as everything is hidden behind secret button combinations and lock outs.

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ben 1 point 3 years ago

Could definitely be that the OS X is seeing more users due to M1. It could also be that this type of user is just more active on the internet recently, statcounter mesures total amount of visits and not unique visitors.

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Anamana 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah I should have known that android has a way higher percentage

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discomatic 4 points 3 years ago

It's been a bit of a struggle, but I switched my media server over in December and I will never go back to Windows.

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Zaphodquixote 3 points 3 years ago

LMAO! I was thinking of this exact idea when I saw that.

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howdy 3 points 3 years ago

I feel bad, I'm using wsl.

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Rengoku 2 points 3 years ago

I laughed way too loud.

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Ascend910 1 point 3 years ago

With for it to go up even faster

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peepeepoopooo 1 point 3 years ago

@SchrodingersPat yay

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MumboAttribute7322 1 point 3 years ago

I'm using macOS on an M1Pro MacBook Pro as a middle way between Windows and Linux. I'm also over 30 and I can't stay I don't like a profesional looking nice design and great materials/build quality. I had a really bad experience when I bought a new Lenovo gaming laptop 2 years ago with Ubuntu Linux. The trackpad and graphics card were not working due to driver issues. I think I also had to compile a kernel module...Full Disk Encryption I feel is also finicky. I always forget ...is it LUKS on LVM or the other way around. btrfs was still not straightened out.

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freestyle 1 point 3 years ago

@SchrodingersPat we will finally show up in pie charts lets go

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EmperorHenry 1 point 3 years ago

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