At 299 votes, original telemetry proposal is only chosen by 16%, vote to oppose corporate shilling on Fedora

3 years ago by Raphael to c/fedora

This poll uses @cassidyjames’s suggestions for opt-in/opt-out terminology. I’m keeping Cassidy’s definitions and removing some of the commentary — see the link for details. Please note that no one is suggesting or considering a “buried opt-out” approach here. That option is just here to be complete. I would be willing to accept[1] Fedora Workstation gathering FESCo-approved aggregate metrics, using the following approach: poll By “willing to accept”, I mean something between “I’m satisfied t...

boots 3 points 3 years ago

At the moment "Explicit opt-in" is winning.

About opt-in, Red Hat employee Michael Catanzaro, who proposed the change, said:

I will NOT consider modifying this proposal such that the data collection is opt-in. I’m open to feedback on everything else, but not that, because there is no use for garbage data. If the Fedora community requires that this be opt-in, then I would give up on the proposal and we’ll just not have any telemetry.

If he's not lying, it looks like there won't be any telemetry at all. Still, the fact they planned and proposed such stuff is concerning.

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staticlifetime 2 points 3 years ago

We still have 18 days to go, but I'm sure the community has already spoken on this matter. If anything, this shows that Fedora Linux is truly a community thing and not just some Red Hat project. This is how the company wanted things years ago when they discontinued Red Hat Linux, so there shouldn't be any bitching on that front either.

Kudos to Matthew Miller for doing the official poll too. I really do hope people spread this message along as much as they did with the "sky is falling" nonsense that's been coming out lately.

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Raphael 1 point 3 years ago

Now let's see if they actually follow the will of the community.

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staticlifetime 1 point 3 years ago

They've done it before. Besides, even the original proposer has already backed-off of being so hard-line.

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Raphael 1 point 3 years ago

Cancel culture is working!

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staticlifetime 1 point 3 years ago

lol, I wouldn't exactly call it that.

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shrugal 1 point 3 years ago

I think this poll is pretty biased right now and doesn't reflect the actual community opinion about the topic. The original proposal ranks lower than the option to have an opt-out toggle buried in the settings, which is clearly much worse for privacy. So either people are really anti-privacy, or many just voted in opposition to the proposal.

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garam 1 point 3 years ago

At least this is shared... Hope the community can fight back with the proposal.

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