EndeavourOS iso also does the same thing but with half the size.
redcalcium 26 points 2 years ago
azvasKvklenko 0 points 2 years ago
CDs were 700MB
TheImpressiveX 23 points 2 years ago
Enjoy the faster downloads.
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possiblylinux127 5 points 2 years ago
The ISO shouldn't be 7gb
bleistift2 64 points 2 years ago
Every driver you could possibly need for any hardware in the last 20 years? This is a live CD and is expected to just work no matter what youβre running it on.
Edit: Also, of course, every program you might need to usefully test-drive a distro, like office apps, media players, image viewers, browser, email client, and a myriad more. Now that Iβve said it I find 6GB remarkably small.
possiblylinux127 8 points 2 years ago
Fedoras iso is 2 gb
thanatotus 23 points 2 years ago
Fedora also by default includes only free stuff. AFAIK Ubuntu includes non free codecs for media and other software that doesn't fit in FOSS category (it's also one of t the reasons why Ububtu became so popular in my opinion, it just works works out of the box)
possiblylinux127 5 points 2 years ago
Fedora includes non free firmware as per there policy
ace 30 points 2 years ago
What is truly bloated is their network-install images, starting with a 14MB kernel and 65MB initrd, which then proceeds to pull a 2.5GB image which they unpack into RAM to run the install.
This is especially egregious when running thin VMs for lots of things, since you now require them to have at least 4GB of RAM simply to be able to launch the installer at all.
Compare this to regular Debian, which uses an 8MB kernel and a 40MB initrd for the entire installer.
Or some larger like AlmaLinux, which has a 13MB kernel and a 98MB initrd, and which also pulls a 900MB image for the installer. (Which does mean a 2GB RAM minimum, but is still almost a third of the size of Ubuntu)
possiblylinux127 9 points 2 years ago
Not to mention pulling a 2.5GB image is kind of hard on network. I don't get it as that costs them more money.
ace 2 points 2 years ago
We're mirroring the images internally, not just because their mirrors suck and would almost double the total install time when using them, but also because they only host the images for the very latest patch version - and they've multiple times made major version changes which have broken the installer between patches in 22.04 alone.
homesweethomeMrL 27 points 2 years ago
If only there was some alternative distro without the bloat. Say, one link down from that one.
passepartout 9 points 2 years ago
Alpine
Steamymoomilk 3 points 2 years ago
Feckin gentoo
TimeSquirrel 8 points 2 years ago
<3 Debian network install image.
possiblylinux127 4 points 2 years ago
Or Linux Mint regular ISO. You know its bad when Linux mint has a comparatively small iso
bonfire921 1 point 2 years ago
I hate you for this pun
germanatlas 4 points 2 years ago
laughtrack.mp3
boredsquirrel 0 points 2 years ago
Linux shipping all drivers by default is a problem
possiblylinux127 1 point 2 years ago
Not really. Fedora is significantly smaller and it ships everything but Nvidia
boredsquirrel 1 point 2 years ago
Yes for sure drivers are not the cause of that problem. But its still basically an extreme violation of the unix philosophy
astrsk 1 point 2 years ago
Debian net installer is 700mb, still fits on CD-R and with a DE selection and base tools during setup, itβs still about 2gb installed as a fully functional system requiring very little to get gaming. Seems fine to me. This post is an Ubuntu problem.
RacoonVegetable 0 points 2 years ago
Donald trump VanillaOS please save me from these people π π
bartolomeo -1 points 2 years ago
Is Ubuntu enshittifying?
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Yes. It is bloated. But not for the reasons you may think.
Live OSes need to fit multiple requirements compared to the installed ones. They need to:
So of course it's bloated, but in a good way. You may be already familiar with Ubuntu, and not care about the live OS part, so it would be bloat for you. You may not care about setting up disks, so GParted is bloat for you, etc...
If you want a less bloated installer, some other distros like debian give net installers
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