DeviantArt’s Downfall Is Devastating, Depressing, and Dumb

2 years ago by misk to c/technology

Once a vibrant platform for artists, DeviantArt is now buckling under the weight of bots and greed—and spurning the creative community that made it great.
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haywire7 118 points 2 years ago

AI generated content is great and all but it drowns out everything else on there. Anyone can type a prompt and generate a great looking image with a couple of attempts these days it seems.

The people spending days, weeks, months and more on a piece can't keep up.

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hellothere 43 points 2 years ago

It's almost like low quality mechanisation is something that should be resisted. I wonder where I've heard that before...

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the_crotch 37 points 2 years ago

You heard it from traditional artists when the camera was invented

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Even_Adder 30 points 2 years ago

As the photographic industry was the refuge of every would-be painter, every painter too ill-endowed or too lazy to complete his studies, this universal infatuation bore not only the mark of a blindness, an imbecility, but had also the air of a vengeance. I do not believe, or at least I do not wish to believe, in the absolute success of such a brutish conspiracy, in which, as in all others, one finds both fools and knaves; but I am convinced that the ill-applied developments of photography, like all other purely material developments of progress, have contrib­uted much to the impoverishment of the French artistic genius, which is already so scarce. It is nonetheless obvious that this industry, by invading the territories of art, has become art’s most mor­tal enemy, and that the confusion of their several func­tions prevents any of them from being properly fulfilled.

― Charles Baudelaire, On Photography, from The Salon of 1859

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TheBat 4 points 2 years ago
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Kusimulkku -4 points 2 years ago

I don't know for what product that'd be desirable. What did you have in mind?

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lurch 11 points 2 years ago

there's some stuff image generating AI just can't do yet. it just can't understand some things. a big problem seems to be referring to the picture itself, like position or its border. another problem is combining things that usually don't belong together, like a skin of sky. those are things a human artist/designer does with ease.

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tal 23 points 2 years ago

there's some stuff image generating AI just can't do yet

There's a lot.

Some of it doesn't matter for certain things. And some of it you can work around. But try creating something like a graphic novel with Stable Diffusion, and you're going to quickly run into difficulties. You probably want to display a consistent character from different angles -- that's pretty important. That's not something that a fundamentally 2D-based generative AI can do well.

On the other hand, there's also stuff that Stable Diffusion can do better than a human -- it can very quickly and effectively emulate a lot of styles, if given a sufficient corpus to look at. I spent a while reading research papers on simulating watercolors, years back. Specialized software could do a kind of so-so job. Stable Diffusion wasn't even built for that, and with a general-purpose model, also not specialized for that, it already can turn out stuff that looks rather more-impressive than those dedicated software packages.

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anlumo 10 points 2 years ago

It‘s even hard to impossible to generate the image of a person doing a handstand. All models assume a rightside-up person.

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100 4 points 2 years ago

think of an episode of any animated series with countless handmade backgrounds, good luck generating those with any sort of consistency or accuracy and you will be calling for an artist who can actually take instructions and iterate

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Thorny_Insight 5 points 2 years ago

I'm a bit surprised about how quickly I got tired of seeing AI content (mostly porn and non-nudes) Somehow it all just looks the same. You'd think that being AI generated would give you infinite variety but apparently not.

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istanbullu 1 point 2 years ago

The same way people using shovels can't keep up with an excavator.

Technology changes the world. This is nothing new.

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Soundhole -9 points 2 years ago

People spending that much time on their work can and should create things in meat space.

EDIT: This comment got some hate and in retrospect it does sound pretty snotty. No disrespect to any digital artists intended, including AI artists.

I just meant to highlight that more traditional artists can still create in meat space and newer AI artists simply cannot do that easily yet. I personally hope any artist with the ability to focus for hours and hours considers also doing meat space work. Actual tangible, 3d work can only be sold once, but can be sold for a lot. And it's cool.

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