How to make android more Private?

3 years ago by gimlithepirate to c/android

What are everyone's recommendations on making android more private? Given Google's recent behavior around tracking and the like, I'm not really comfortable with then having all of my data. I've even contemplated going to iOS, since apple doesn't have a vested interest in me having less privacy... But I just don't like their OS lol.

I've tried GrapheneOS, and it's not awful. For usability, I did have to add Google apps back in, but at least they are sandboxes.

For the moment though, my daily driver is a Samsung S21. What can I do to make I more private?

So far, I have:

Switched to Samsung browser with adblock.
Started using duckduck go.
Installed duckduck go's app tracking protection. That was an eye opener.
Restricted location history in Google maps.

What else? I know Graphene is typically the gold standard, but I'm trying to see what I can do short of that.

shortwavesurfer 13 points 3 years ago

Disable play services, install fdroid, install aurora store from fdroid to keep your play store apps up to date switch to ProtonMail or Tutanota, install and use newpipe from fdroid

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Discoslugs 2 points 3 years ago

These are great recommendations.

I would add mullvad VPN and biwarden password manager.

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shortwavesurfer 2 points 3 years ago

I use ProtonVPN and KeepassDX but those are both good suggestions

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Pillarist 2 points 3 years ago

Get GrapheneOS back and do this. Win.

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aragon 10 points 3 years ago

Firefox on Android supports ublock and noscript as well as other privacy extension. I cannot recommend it enough. Also use newpipe for YouTube. For any apps, see if you have an equivalent in f-droid and use it instead of the one from playstore.

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3migo 9 points 3 years ago

I would use Firefox Mobile over the Samsung browser. Samsung is still chromium based and Firefox puts more priority on user privacy.

If you can switch messaging and group chats to Signal or Telegram, that'd be a good move as well.

Otherwise App Tracking Protection is probably the best thing you can do for privacy.

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gimlithepirate 9 points 3 years ago

Went to signal awhile ago, mainly because it's secure and cross platform.

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kira 1 point 3 years ago

Signal is bad for privacy. You need to enter your phone number and it has centralized server
I use Matrix. It requires only email and is decentralized

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nodsocket 3 points 3 years ago

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nodsocket 2 points 3 years ago

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_MoveSwiftly 5 points 3 years ago

Not sure if this makes it "private" but here is what I use:

Firefox with extensions.
Proton VPN, Calendar, Drive, Mail.
Bitwarden password manager.

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AlmostDachshund 1 point 3 years ago

Exactly what I use. Lately I've been testing the Kiwi Next browser as well.

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nodsocket 4 points 3 years ago

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gimlithepirate 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I'm not trying to go full paranoia on this.

The main thing I'm worried about is Google's response to geolocation based subpoenas. That combined with the US political environment is concerning.

The second thing is the stupid advertiser tracking. That's just not cool.

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nodsocket 2 points 3 years ago

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gimlithepirate 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah all fair.

That's pretty much how I feel about apple. I think at this point I'm leaning towards going to Graphene OS. I used to use custom ROMs a bunch back in the CyanogenMod days.

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Discoslugs 3 points 3 years ago

Check out calyxOS.

It's more user friendly than graphene. It does this by sacrificing some privacy and security but it's still pretty good.

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t_lo 3 points 3 years ago

Please have a look: https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ and special https://www.privacyguides.org/en/tools/

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Sabakodgo 2 points 3 years ago

There is a good post on Lemmy about Hardening privacy on android https://lemmy.ml/post/54596

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gimlithepirate 2 points 3 years ago

Is this a shit post, or the wrong link?

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BigTechBlows 1 point 3 years ago

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Transcendant 2 points 3 years ago

The DDG tracking protection is unreal, I keep recommending it to people but I don't think they realise quite how much they're being tracked or they'd be jumping on it. It was insane for me to see hundreds of thousands of tracking requests denied each week. What's not to love, it's free, and stops tracking.

I've had a Pixel 7a for about a month now and loving it, alongside DuckDuckGo app tracking blocker. I was already using that on my tired ole' S9, would never have considered a google phone without that installed alongside.

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GeneralChaz9 2 points 3 years ago

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Transcendant 3 points 3 years ago

With DuckDuckGo blocking the (egregious) tracking, and Nova launcher letting me properly customize the homescreen (there are two widgets that cannot be removed with stock launcher which was a big nuisance), it's a pretty slick handset especially for the cost. I'd have loved to have gone with an S23 but can't afford to spend that much on a phone unfortunately!

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ultimatespleen -11 points 3 years ago

I’m curious what you don’t like about iOS. I started out on Android, switched to iOS and never looked back. I realized I was doing most customization in Android to feel like iOS lol. the privacy upgrade is priceless imo.

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_MoveSwiftly 12 points 3 years ago

iOS is not private, it's secure.

Private: Only you can see it, the servicing company does not. In the case, Apple not only sees your data but sells it too.

Secure: The data is protected from unwanted access by 3rd party vendors.

These are rough definitions though.

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gimlithepirate 4 points 3 years ago

Yeah, this is what concerns me.

Stock Android is neither. So for the average user, Apple iOS is probably better.

I'm on lemmy so I'm probably not the average user lol.

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nodsocket 4 points 3 years ago

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ultimatespleen 2 points 3 years ago

Makes sense. In that case, I guess I’d still take iOS since it’s secure, while stock Android is neither private nor secure. You make an important distinction though.

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_MoveSwiftly 1 point 3 years ago

Depends on your usage.

I use Android, because I can make it secure and I can guarantee privacy in certain areas.

iOS is better for the masses though, and I do think they put a significant effort to ensure security. Especially on an OS level.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

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randomguy2323 9 points 3 years ago

Privacy now that Apple owns your data instead of Google. Apple is always calling back home , they ask for so much private information when you create an account , they control your app store and what apps you are allow to have. Even on the lockdown mode which was supposed to be the most secure it still contact apple servers and when using a VPN not all traffic pass through the tunnel , because Apple dont allow you. If you really want privacy buy a device that you own , and can control. Your privacy and security is on your hands not in a big corporation.

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gimlithepirate 2 points 3 years ago

Pure personal preference. I've traditionally gone back and forth almost every time I get a new phone. It's really only in the last 2-3 years I've hit the point I significantly prefer android.

For me, some of the interface choices on iOS are no Bueno. Additionally, the lack of a button, or simulated button is not something I'm fond of.

I'm also not convinced they are more private. I think Apple's incentives line up more with mine than Google's, but only barely. Independent researchers are pretty mixed on whether Apple is actually blocking all apps, or just making it so Apple is the only one who can profit off of people's data.

The only reason I think they are probably more private is the giant hissy fit Facebook threw over their settings.

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ultimatespleen 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks for the answer! Makes sense to me. Yeah, the Facebook reaction to that settings change made me think they’re actually doing something to prevent at least third party apps from accessing user data. And the whole thing about refusing to build a back door into iOS for the FBI.

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