amelia 42 points 2 years ago

Just in case you missed it: there have been serious accusations against Till Lindemann, the singer of Rammstein, recently. Apparently his band managers contact young female Rammstein fans on social media before concerts, inviting them to secret after show parties where they get lots of alcohol and Till can choose one to drug even more and take to bed with him. Multiple women have come forward with similar claims and the social media thing has been well documented as far as I know. The case went to court but was dropped because there wasn't enough proof and now he acts like nothing ever happened. I think everyone listening to the band should know about this.

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Johanno 53 points 2 years ago

Well the court case went by innocent, because none of the women who claimed to be drugged showed up.

You can make with that information what you want.

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lauha 34 points 2 years ago

While the allegations are serious, we cannot keep spreading rumors that have not been shown true. It's a work for the justice system to determine the guilt. Obviously I am against sexual abuse, but social media is not a justice system and there is a huge risk for innocent to be lynched.

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Stitch0815 -5 points 2 years ago

Maybe But row zero alone is enough reason for me to say fuck them

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Draedron 32 points 2 years ago

I wonder how someone is supposed to defend themselves against accusations when even a lack of evidence is not enough for people.

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cows_are_underrated 4 points 2 years ago

As others already pointed out, none of the woman accusing Lindemann was willing to go to court with their claims. Even tho, that so far it looks like everything he did was legal you can still talk about him absuing the power he has over his fans. I kinda doubt, that a lot of girls would say no, if a 40 year older rock superstar asks for sex. Legally speaking she may gave her consent, but morally I think that he devinetively abused his power and status.

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StaySquared -2 points 2 years ago

Probably an accusation created by the FBI because Rammstein made a song about America. /shrug

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computerscientistII -2 points 2 years ago

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computerscientistII 2 points 2 years ago

Great. removed by mods. So much for freedom of speech at this sub.

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Leviathan 0 points 2 years ago

I disagree, how can someone's share of responsibility in a situation that includes the actions and motivations of another person be 100%? That's incorrect at best.

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In -3 points 2 years ago

Assuming consent in general, the only illegal part was