I like the game grumps and Lex Fridman. The documentaries are cool, but I have to watch them in a different container or YouTube will start feeding me 30 minute ads or rants that sound reasonable but are super bigoted and flawed when you actually think about it

Reddit meant more to me than anything else I do online, and I committed to leaving it behind even before I found Lemmy... YouTube is barely worth it even without the ads. And I've got a whole fediverse of video content to investigate

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Transcendant 11 points 3 years ago

One of my oldest friends has recently started turning to the dark side, his PC died and he's run out of new shows to watch... so started watching stuff on YouTube via the suggestions.

It started off as debates between men and women... I warned him that it was going to suggest him more and more extreme stuff and the algo will walk him further to the right. Now he's quoting Andrew Tate, watching videos with conspiracies about great reset, ranting about trans people, ugh. When he said "the media is shoving trans in our face, all these trans personalities" I asked him to list these trans personalities, he couldn't list one. He's just spewing the rhetoric YT fed him. Very sad, he's not the only one being infected by this shit.

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Fylkir 4 points 3 years ago

There are dozens of third-party YouTube frontends that'll work.

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Hell 1 point 3 years ago

You can always create a better frontend for new pipe and use YouTube add usual

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Monologue 30 points 3 years ago

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moose_cannon 6 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately, youtube is mostly a TV thing for me. Very hard to ad block on smart tvs

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Monologue 20 points 3 years ago

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TSMKFail 7 points 3 years ago

Or you can use Downloader if you use an Amazon TV device. (Screw you Google for removing Downloader)

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PopOfAfrica 9 points 3 years ago

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Monologue 6 points 3 years ago

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venoft 6 points 3 years ago

Smarttube next is for Android TV. Works very well. Sometimes you do need to update (can be done in-app) after YouTube decides to break third party apps.

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TSMKFail 1 point 3 years ago

I get an update almost every day

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venoft 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah the app is updated very often, but it's not always necessary to actually update. But once every 3 to 6 months or so you need to, to keep it from functioning with googles servers.

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ash 3 points 3 years ago

does this support 4k? Anything i’ve used that says they do actually don’t. FreeTube, Invidious, Piped

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venoft 2 points 3 years ago

It does.

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ImTiagoSousa 2 points 3 years ago

In moments like these, I absolutely hate having a Tizen TV, I really need to get a Chromecast or something.

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nodsocket 29 points 3 years ago

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LillianVS 28 points 3 years ago

As someone who uses and really enjoys Youtube Premium this upsets me. Feels very counter-to what is agreed on purchase:

I wonder if it's possible to file a complaint as false advertisement. As part of the subscription it even says in the FAQ "ad-free" which this is definitely not. I'm not a lawyer though and this is not legal advice.

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joyjoy 14 points 3 years ago

This reminds me of the "Ad free" tier of Paramount Plus. There were unskippable ads for other paramount shows. And the 5 second bumper counted as an ad and was unskippable.

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inventa 5 points 3 years ago

I can't explain how much this pisses me off

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Cybermass 6 points 3 years ago

I'm not a lawyer but anyone with a brain cell would agree this is false advertising at least, possibly breach of contract depending on what the TOS says.

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RoxActually 24 points 3 years ago

This is why I would not want to pay a subscription to YouTube. I don't trust that they would ever truely work out all the ads

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transmatrix 20 points 3 years ago

I've had Premium since it was called Red (got it through Google Music) and never see ads. Would be upset if I was OP, but haven't experienced that issue myself.

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JDPoZ 6 points 3 years ago

SmartTube - if you've got an Android streaming box (like an NVIDIA Shield Pro, for example), sideload it. You'll thank me later.

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RoxActually 2 points 3 years ago

I use this on my Google tv. Game changer.

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j_gets 1 point 3 years ago

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SQL_InjectMe 1 point 3 years ago

I’ve never seen an ad on the youtube app, it’s just a bug. ___

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Showroom7561 22 points 3 years ago

That's why I canceled Premium. I was still getting ads AND Google still used trackers. AND content creators get next to no money from it...

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iAmTheTot 21 points 3 years ago

People love to shit on yt premium but it's single handedly the best value I've ever gotten out of a service. And I'm okay with financially supporting a service that I use a lot.

This is upsetting, though. I don't watch a ton on tv, but when I have I've never seen an ad like this pop up. I'll be watching out for them.

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Iwamoto 8 points 3 years ago

yeah, i basically have youtube on throughout the day so it's a good "investment" for me. but yeah, the deal is, i pay them, they don't show me ads (and sponsorblock does the rest) so this is quite wild.

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Fatalchemist 6 points 3 years ago

Yep. This is the first legitimate "YouTube premium sucks" I've seen because it's not holding up their end of the transaction.

I haven't seen this happen to me yet and I use YouTube on my PC, my phone, and my TV via Alexa.

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this 20 points 3 years ago

So were at the point where we are paying for an experience with ads AND invasive trackers and personal data mining + psychological profiling just to watch videos? What the fuck, thats distopian AF.

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detinu 3 points 3 years ago

Put it into some AR goggles and the dystopian cyberpunk future will no longer be sci fi

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Chefdano3 19 points 3 years ago

nothing mild about this. this is straight enraging. I hate youtube.

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redsol2 16 points 3 years ago

Corporations ☕

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arandomthought 1 point 3 years ago

They be wanting them moneys. 🤷

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meat_popsicle 16 points 3 years ago

All that paying does is prove you’ll pay whatever they want. Just like a blackmailer, it’s never enough. They always escalate in their attempts to extract “value”.

It’s the same damn story, time after time. “Oh, we put a few ads to cover expenses - it’ll be limited, we promise.” 3 months later: “We have a premium plan that hides ads.” Another 3 months: “We now have informational banners on premium for our own content. Since it’s our own, it’s totally not an ad!”

Then just: “Pay us a monthly rate and get served ads.”

It’s like fucking clockwork with these ghouls.

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funkyfridgerator 16 points 3 years ago

Wait people actually pay for that shit 🤔

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sverit 6 points 3 years ago

Via VPN in India. Costs about 1$ per month.

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Hell 3 points 3 years ago

You can just use smart tube for TV and revanced for Android if you don't wanna pay

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sverit 2 points 3 years ago

I personally use NewPipe x Sponsorblock, but my iPhone friends are out of luck ;)

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faultyaddress 0 points 3 years ago

So you just need VPN for one time purchase or how? Asking for a friend.

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cyanide 4 points 3 years ago

The $1/mo is for a student account. The regular account is $1.5/mo, and a family account is $2.3/mo. You'd probably need to use a VPN every time you wanted to renew it (monthly, I suppose). There are annual plans with a 10% discount, so you could probably go for an annual membership and have to do it only once a year.

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faultyaddress 1 point 3 years ago

Thank you!

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AbsurdityAccelerator 3 points 3 years ago

Yes and it worth it not to see garbage ads.

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notasandwich1948 1 point 3 years ago

to be fair you don't need premium to not have ads

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SQL_InjectMe 2 points 3 years ago

Yes. I use a service so I pay for the service. I use software frameworks so I donate to their patreons.

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ndsvw 15 points 3 years ago

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TheGreenGolem 4 points 3 years ago

Thanks! I will do that on my Android TV right away.

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synapse1278 15 points 3 years ago

For Android TV you have Smart Tube Next

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theblueredditrefugee 3 points 3 years ago

Do you happen to know of a replacement for Youtube Vanced? It stopped getting supported due to cease and desist, and now it only works like half the time... (idk why youtube doesn't create a version check and make it not work all the time, but w/e lmao I'll take what I can get)

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aleks01100001 7 points 3 years ago

there is a replacement called revanced, here is their github page.

You will have to compile the youtube app yourself, their revanced manager will help you with that.

And you have to download the latest supported version that is 18.19.35 from apk mirror.

If you need any more help feel free to ask me :)

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cranky_dweeb 6 points 3 years ago

Newpipe and libretube

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aleks01100001 2 points 3 years ago

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kadu 1 point 3 years ago

What's your smart TV? I've jailbroken my LG C1 and I have YouTube without ads, and better yet, SponsorBlock built in so I don't get even the ads being read by the YouTubers themselves.

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michikade 14 points 3 years ago

If they start inserting ads in videos I’m watching even though I literally pay them not to, I’ll be more than just mildly infuriated.

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McBinary 12 points 3 years ago

Do you have a Chromecast? Install "smarttube" instead. It strips out all ads, and even has sponsor block built in so it skips sponsor stuff in video.

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Shwelly9 4 points 3 years ago

Can’t believe I hadn’t heard of this. Would always cast from my ad-blocked PC. But now I can use this - Thanks!

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olrik 3 points 3 years ago

I don't know, I use uBlock Origin for Chrome (not sure if there are equivalents for other browsers) and I never see adds from my desktop, with a free account.

It does not scrap out sponsor babble but it definitely blocks youtube adds.

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lastrogue 4 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure OP and others above are talking about from smart enabled media devices like Amazon firestick or google's equivalent chromecast, a hardware device you plugin to your tv, not the chromecast capability.

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olrik 1 point 3 years ago

OK I must admit I'm very old in Internet time and I didn't get that they were not talking about a simple navigator on desktop. I do have a smart vaccum cleaner robot which is not a roomba, although I managed to connect it to my wifi and I can control it from an app on my smartphone. Just trying to keep up.

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blaine 2 points 3 years ago

Thanks for this comment. I just set this up on my Chromecast HD and it works incredibly well. I may just cancel YouTube premium now!

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Provenscroll 10 points 3 years ago

And this is why I just use an ad free YouTube client, literally provides better features for free

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noughtnaut 3 points 3 years ago

Edit: I should have clarified, I meant an app for Android phones/tablets.

Question, finally asked: Where do you get an ad free youtube client these days? Surely, posting a direct link here on Lemmy is not against rules?

I'd been using Revanced for quite a while, but then it eventually got caught up with and it stopped working. There was some hullabaloo about "fake" Revanced clones, and now I hear it's transformed into a "patcher". Only, on my phone I get a warning saying the patching may not work due to my processor or kernel or such -- and lo, it does not, the patching throws an exception late-ish in the process and I'm left with an unpatched youtube app.

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Henrik 1 point 3 years ago

I use revanced without issues. But good to know about alternatives for when the day eventually comes...

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noughtnaut 2 points 3 years ago

Yes but from where do you obtain a version of Revanced that still works on current YouTube? That was my question.

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yopyop 1 point 3 years ago

https://freetubeapp.io/

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AnonymousLlama 10 points 3 years ago

Pretty typical for YouTube honestly, they'd try and justify it as saying it's not an "as" it's an "experience highlight" or something.

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toiletwhole 9 points 3 years ago

https://invidious.io

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Nahlej 3 points 3 years ago

I think they just got a cease and desist from Google yesterday.

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QuazarOmega 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah but they couldn't possibly shut down each and every instance

..right? I reall hope this statement doesn't age badly

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seang96 2 points 3 years ago

If they make it hard enough that they cannot host their code repo then they can't maintain it, it should be shutting them all down.

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QuazarOmega 2 points 3 years ago

Well yes, eventually, when they introduce breaking changes in YouTube.
Even so, I believe that today you can very well keep developing software even if you were not allowed to, unless you started committing with an account that personally identifies you, you can move to another hoster or host your own forge, maybe host it over Tor too, or try out the kinda experimental radicle.xyz (btw, why/when did they make their website uglier? It was so much better before)

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Silviecat44 9 points 3 years ago

Hmmmmm

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joinmyframily0118999 3 points 3 years ago

SmartTubeTV or whatever works great.

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DarkErmac 8 points 3 years ago

Hey, another person who likes robot combat

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administrator 7 points 3 years ago

More like very infuriating, I pay for premium too, if I see ads I’ll be pissed!

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IsThisLemmyOpen 6 points 3 years ago

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Faceman2K23 4 points 3 years ago

If I see one of those I'm cancelling my subscription and going back to the third party apps.

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gsdf 3 points 3 years ago

What's going on with this screen? Is it a projector? What is the fuzzy thing surrounding it?

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moose_cannon 8 points 3 years ago

It's just bad lighting. It's a Vizio P series from a few years ago. (Not a bad set)

The fuzzy stuff is a bit of garland. Decoration.

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realZiggyRed 3 points 3 years ago

I don't see why buying youtube premuim is any better than just using ublock origin.

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Gentoo1337 1 point 3 years ago

Probably just a morality thing. Even though some creators have spoken against its use because the experience is bad

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moose_cannon 1 point 3 years ago

Because it works on smart tvs and Chromecast. Also I like YouTube music. I watch enough YouTube that it's worth it for me. Almost 0% of that watch time is on a device that supports uBlock Origin

Also you know...supporting channels I watch...

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Jentu 3 points 3 years ago

I'm also a premium YT subscriber and if I see this or they kick me off for using PiHole, I'll cancel my account and just set up some automation with YT-DLP to Plex or Infuse for channels I like watching. If youtube decided that it's their turn to get shitty like the rest of the popular internet, I'll be beyond upset.

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Cybermass 1 point 3 years ago

You can actually set up firewall settings to block any traffic coming from the ads, the only way they can stop that form of ad block is to block the person's IP address.

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Jentu 2 points 3 years ago

I'm mainly worried that some of the people I like watching on youtube will decide that youtube isn't worth it anymore and they'll stop making content entirely. Or even switch over to twitch, which I've never been able to get into.

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possiblylinux127 2 points 3 years ago

Use third party clients

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vsg 1 point 3 years ago

Strange. I have Premium as well but I've never received an ad.

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