'Unprecedented' and 'Very Dangerous,' Hurricane Beryl Explodes Into Category 4 Storm

2 years ago by jeffw to c/climate

"The climate crisis is here. This is an emergency. Politicians need to start acting like it."
notanaltaccount 15 points 2 years ago

Remember, if youre from Florida, don't say climate change when discussing this... or else!

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Crampon 0 points 2 years ago

Hurricanes are not getting more frequent or violent because of climate change though. They are likely to become more rare with increasing temperature in the northern hemisphere because of even temperatures in the weather systems.

Lex Friedman ep 339 does a good job explaining the difference between more and severe weather and people settling down in huge numbers in already exposed areas.

We had a huge rainfall in Norway last year submerging a lot of properties. People said this was unprecedented and because of climate change. Only issue is that we have historical data on earlier floods, and people had settled down below the markings of earlier floods more than 100 years ago. The issue is not climate change, but regulating properties on a patch of land you know with 100% certainty will get flooded again.

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notanaltaccount 1 point 2 years ago

You know how matter changes from solid to liquid to gas at certain points? I believe there are phase changes in ecology and environmental habitability and sometimes things seem fine and suddenly they aren't.

At the risk of sounding prejudiced and offensive, the norse are a very smart and sexy group of people, so perhaps I am wrong in not accepting your illogical and sexy perspective?

I just think 1 variable of change is not the correct barometer of "how close are we to the ecological abyss?"

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WalrusDragonOnABike 9 points 2 years ago

Hurricane Beryl continues to defy all known logic, now becoming the first June Category 4 hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin. I can't even stress enough just how completely absurd that storm is.

But that just means we have room for new records, like first cat 5 storm in June! We wouldn't want to stop making WRs, right? /s

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jeffw 1 point 2 years ago

Not the first category 4 though, just in that area (I think the furthest east category 4 in June?)

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WalrusDragonOnABike 0 points 2 years ago

Which one beat it in the Atlantic? Next I see is Dennis, which was around July 8th 2005. Then August 3rd in 1970. Pacific season starts earlier I think, so it beats it easily (May 25/26th in 2014 it looks like)

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555_1 7 points 2 years ago

Where is the sharpie line?

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WalrusDragonOnABike 2 points 2 years ago

Looks like it also took the Atlantic record for earliest cat5 by 15 days and 3rd was August 5th. At 165mph winds, it's well within the cat5 category too.

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