The state of the internet 2023

3 years ago by Roundcat to c/memes

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Zinggi57 215 points 3 years ago

I think a lot of people here don't understand the danger of this fully and dismiss it with "Just use Firefox, problem solved".
Unfortunately, once this becomes widely available, that is once Chrome ships it, websites will start to use it.
Maybe Amazon will just not sell to you anymore when you're browsing with Firefox?
Maybe YouTube wont serve any videos if you're using Linux?
Your bank will certainly implement this and only allow Windows 11 with Edge or some shit like that.
Once this is implemented, we will all suffer, even if we're using better alternatives right now.

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Ushi 115 points 3 years ago

Your bank will certainly implement this

My brother in Christ, it was 2020 before my bank supported passwords longer than 8 characters. We have 30 or 40 years before we need to worry about the banks.

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vaultdweler13 36 points 3 years ago

Some banks are still running windows 98 internally, admitedly so long as said system isnt connected to the internet it should be fine.

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Da_Boom 10 points 3 years ago

Have you ever rooted an android phone?

The google SafteyNet Attestation is the precursor to browser DRM. It's essentially phone DRM.

There are many banks that have apps that require you to pass at least the basic level attestation, if not the CTS profile matching that fails the moment you modify any system level resources, even the bootloader

luckily you can force disable CTS so it falls back on the basic level, for most apps at least. You will never have access to Google or Samsung pay though, as it actually knows your phone model should support CTS and will autofail if it no longer reports that it does.

Alongside that apps like Pokemon GO and Netflix also require at least basic attestation to function - demonstrating the DRM and anticheat capabilities of such a system.

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JustEnoughDucks 2 points 3 years ago

Yes, US banks.

Banks in europe are much more up to date with tech.

They have APIs to sink transactions with external providers like nordigen API.

They have 2FA that is linked to your national identity card which is chipped

Nationally used apps that are universal 2FA linked to national IDs that banks, medical, and government services all tap into

Everything is contactless payment nowadays, the US just recently started contactless cards

Inter-bank transfers without external apps like venmo

There are MANY problems with EU people getting their banks to work on a rooted phone.

They will absolutely implement DRM if someone sells the bullshit to them under the illusion of "safety."

Hell, the US had handwritten "vaccine cards" for covid while European nations even had open source user spinoffs on nationally funded apps linked to national IDs to manage COVID vaccination and testing passes.

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jungekatz 23 points 3 years ago

I wonder if that would be a valid anti trust violition ?

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macintosh 12 points 3 years ago

If we lived in a sane country all 4 major tech companies would have already been brought to court over this in like, 2016. (Microsoft for the second time…)

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matt 14 points 3 years ago
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Regelfall 15 points 3 years ago

Google search has become very bad and is easily replaced by basically any search engine. YouTube is still unparalleled though.

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llii 13 points 3 years ago

It's IE6 all over again.

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Jentu 13 points 3 years ago

Would apple just roll over on this? Or would they fight to make sure safari is also an option to freely use the internet (or at least severely limiting apples ability to do something similar) And websites that depend on ads, the number of Firefox and safari users have to be greater than the number of users who use ad-blockers. So wouldn’t it negatively affect ad income on websites if they implemented it and cut out all non-chromium browsers?

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erogenouswarzone 21 points 3 years ago

I think apple would figure out some very creative ways to fuck it's customers, some more.

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Shinhoshi 4 points 3 years ago
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llcoolvm 6 points 3 years ago

Did Firefox even say that they would not implement it as well? Are there any informations on that?

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Shinhoshi 13 points 3 years ago
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rasikww 4 points 3 years ago

Doesn't that also mean they lose customers or possible transactions which could have made them money?

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