European Union votes to bring back replaceable phone batteries

3 years ago by fej to c/europe

Among the many changes, the new rules would require batteries in consumer devices like smartphones to be easily removable and replaceable. That's far from the case today...
GoodEye8 8 points 3 years ago

Good, the biggest reason I have to buy a new phone is the battery effectively dying. I've already decided that when my current phone needs to be charged at least twice a day then I'm buying a phone with replaceable parts, something like Fairphone. From experience my phone has at least 2, maybe even 3, years left so maybe by that time I have a lot more options to choose from.

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fej 3 points 3 years ago

Batteries used to be considered to be a part that needs to be replaced as part of regular maintenance, because they deteriorate pretty fast compared to the other parts. The fact that anyone ever thought batteries should not be replaceable astonishes me.

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bernieecclestoned 2 points 3 years ago

The batteries last longer now than the phone is usable with newer versions of the OS.

Apple got caught throttling older phones

https://www.theguardian.com/...

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CrateDane 1 point 3 years ago

Next up, EU mandating updates for security and basic functionality for X number of years.

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SillyJester 3 points 3 years ago
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HowRu68 3 points 3 years ago

So basically we'd like a replaceable, thinner battery; a 3,5 mm jack, and let's keep it water-resistant/proof. That would be great.

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epoch 3 points 3 years ago

This is great news!

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CaptainJanegay 3 points 3 years ago

This is great news, but I hope they also take steps to incentivise manufacturers to actually sell the batteries. Sure, you can get them on ebay, but the quality is variable.

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Pantsofmagic 2 points 3 years ago

If only they'd do the same for the headphone jack and storage slot.

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redtea 3 points 3 years ago

Loss of headphone jacks was the worst change for me. I've never had a problem with batteries. My phones have become obsolete due to software updates that brick them or because the hardware can't get the latest security updates and I don't want to take the risk. A power button went on one phone (Google Nexus something or other) because LG(?) installed a weak plastic rocker and made it unreplaceable. Absolutely nothing else wrong with it but it was just out of warranty.

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pumpkin 2 points 3 years ago

It's always been absolutely crazy to me that a normally easy to replace part that has a known short lifespan would be moved deep in the bowels of the phone where you can't get to it.

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JICMan 1 point 3 years ago

I'd love to see it this would actually give some phones a longer lifespan. Especially for people like me that "charge" their phone 24/7 because of USB-Tethering.

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Lurifax 1 point 3 years ago

Remember that LG phone where you could slide the entire bottom off and it had a battery in it like a hdd cage. That would be totally doable.

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Aaron-Davis363 1 point 3 years ago

That's... Good news.

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LogischesWindows 1 point 3 years ago

No more thin phones then?

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fej 7 points 3 years ago

Why would a replaceable battery require a thicker phone?

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LogischesWindows 4 points 3 years ago

Now that you say it true why would it

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qtj 1 point 3 years ago

It makes it more difficult to design really thin phones because the battery needs a sturdier case and an additional connector to be easily replaceable. Generally making a phone smaller and thinner makes components less accessible. Personally I think it is more important that high quality batteries are available for a long time. In my opinion it would be fine if some tools were required to replace the battery. Ideally that only needs to be done once every 2-3 years so if it takes a bit longer it isn't such a big deal as when there aren't good batteries available.

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TrollerXD 3 points 3 years ago

any good reason for having a super thin phone?

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LogischesWindows 0 points 3 years ago

I knew someone was gonna say that but of course I want it to be thin when I have it in my pocket the whole day. I have a case on my phone that makes it thicker and you can already kinda see it through my pants which doesn't really look good

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redtea 1 point 3 years ago

Phones haven't been thin since manufacturers started to stick half an inch of lens of two or more too many cameras on the back. With some clever engineering, phones wouldn't have to get that much thicker. They could just smooth off the back and shuffle the components.

They wouldn't need cases so much if they were (a) made properly and (b) made repairable, either, but that's another uphill battle.

While I'm moaning, can I also complain about shitty glass screen protectors that add another couple of mil to the thickness and break constantly. Never had a screen crack while using a thinner plastic screen cover but they're almost impossible to find nowadays.

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Tischkante 1 point 3 years ago

They're not thin anymore since the 9 because they're was an issue with them bending in pockets.

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highduc 1 point 3 years ago

It wouldn't hurt to make them standardized somehow, otherwise it might be that you can replace the battery but can't find one to buy, or if you do it's more expensive than it's worth and it motivates you to buy a new phone entirely.

And +1 vote for the fucking headphone jack. A standard in the audio industry since (looking at wikipedia) for over a century! killed off by Apple (and subsequently everyone else's) corporate greed.

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