inclementimmigrant 189 points 2 years ago

I mean if Europe wants to increase their military funding and move items in house I think that would be a wonderful idea. Because America is not a reliable partner in this at all in the past two decades.

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Kalkaline 48 points 2 years ago

The perfect excuse for the military industrial complex to move manufacturing overseas.

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inclementimmigrant 16 points 2 years ago

So I'm going to say that the military industrial complex is already there, it would simply be a rapid expansion.

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lurch 25 points 2 years ago

Multiple EU countries want to, but they also want to give stuff to Ukraine and it's difficult to do both.

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twinnie 2 points 2 years ago

The problem is that America has all the money.

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Num10ck 1 point 2 years ago

all the unhinged currency but also all the debt.

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FenrirIII 1 point 2 years ago

Cutting off American weapons manufacturers would tank the US economy. Please do it.

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SomeAmateur -42 points 2 years ago

If Europe gets into a war of course the US will help. But the same can't really be said if the US gets into a war. The rest of NATO needs to be able to hold the fort if the US were to get suddenly ....distracted in the Pacific

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BigDanishGuy 52 points 2 years ago

If Europe gets into a war of course the US will help.

How sure are you of that? Sure, if Russia marches towards the Atlantic Ocean, but if Russia decides to create a security buffer zone in Finland? Or the Baltic countries?

NATO has only survived for as long because of the commitment of the US. Come January NATO is dead as well as a sovereign Ukraine.

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EldritchFeminity 24 points 2 years ago

If Europe gets into a war, the US will side with Russia. Trump has been a Russian asset since the 80s, and it's clear that he gave Putin classified documents relating to American spies and informants during his last presidency when they suddenly started dying a few days after he met with Putin. And even more classified documents relating to American espionage against Russia than the ones he requested before that meeting were found in Mar a la Go.

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Draedron 15 points 2 years ago

Are you fucking stupid? Which is the only country to ever invoke article 5? How many other countries listened to the call for this injust war?

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