PhelanWulf 21 points 3 years ago

To anyone interested: Kagi is a great alternative!

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dan 17 points 3 years ago

Kagi is so expensive. $5/month for 10 searches per day, $10 for 34/day. A staggering $25/month for unlimited searches.

I gave it a try after it came up a couple of weeks ago. It’s quite good, but it’s not that good. Its better than DuckDuckGo, it’s a bit less overloaded with seo spam than google, but it hasn’t found anything that I haven’t been able to find with my usual method - a combination of mostly DDG with smatterings of Google and a lot of adding “reddit” to searches.

I would pretty happily pay $5 a month for a single search engine that did everything, but I just use search too much so I’d have to keep my existing multiple search engine approach or pay loads.

I think it’s too expensive.

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TWeaK 4 points 3 years ago

I crunched the numbers in another comment.

Supposedly $5 for 300 searches a month is enough for most people - they claim on average people use Google 3-4 times per day, or 90-120 times per month. However, when you phrase that as 10 searches per day you can easily imagine that you might go over your 300 per month every now and then.
Additional searches are 1.5c each, or $4.50 for 300 searches.
$10 gets you 1,000 searches per month. 1c per search if you use them all.
$25 per month is unlimited, but you get 15% discount if you pay a year up front - $255.
You would need to make 1,833 searches a day with the $10 per month plan for the $255 annual plan to be worth considering.

I agree that it's too expensive. The fact that their individual search rate is cheaper than the lowest tier monthly search annoys me. Then, the only way to get less than 1c per search is to make more than 21,000 searches a year on the most expensive plan.

If I could share my account across a family or a small business, that might make sense, but otherwise it's asking a lot for only a small improvement over the competition.

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Dave 3 points 3 years ago

There are blog posts but basically these guys don't have investor funding, need to cover costs, and the cost structure is representative of their costs.

Running a search index is expensive, it's honesty pretty amazing a company of this size can manage it.

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Magister 3 points 3 years ago

what about https://www.qwant.com ?

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CautiousBrowser 6 points 3 years ago

Honestly, I've been using it as my default research engine for a year and... I'm now manualy changing to Google everytime I'm REALLY searching for something.

Qwant results are generaly several steps below.

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