Why is vote "fuzzing" so extreme?

3 years ago by errer to c/lemmyworld

I've been noticing the number of upvotes on posts fluctuate wildly...from 12, to 350, to 150. Pretty wild swings. I know fuzzing is needed to combat bots, but I had thought it was more like at the few % level, not orders of magnitude...

imaqtpie 28 points 3 years ago

Web socket issue apparently. Definitely a bug, there is no vote fuzzing at all

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mesamunefire 10 points 3 years ago

Yeah code has it where is shows up/downs raw.

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Skelectus 7 points 3 years ago

It's this; the score isn't fuzzed, it's the real score, but from a wrong post.

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RockDeBilly 15 points 3 years ago

Oh, I assumed it was just a bug.

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kneelknee 14 points 3 years ago

Pretty sure it is a bug

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PriorProject 1 point 3 years ago

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slashzero 13 points 3 years ago

It’s a bug. One of many related to how the UI updates in real time using websockets. The good news is they are getting rid of websockets in the next release, and should fix a lot of these issues.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1093

@ruud@lemmy.world maybe a featured/sticky post pointing to currently open issues in GitHub would be helpful?

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MalachiAzrael 8 points 3 years ago

I have nothing to back this up but I assumed it was due to federating everywhere. And calculating the actual total, dealing with duplication etc.

Would be great to see someone with a bit more know how chime in.

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AbouBenAdhem 7 points 3 years ago

I doubt there’s any deliberate vote fuzzing here—reddit did that to prevent karma-farming bots from figuring out if they were being detected and blocked, but with no permanent karma, that shouldn’t be an issue here.

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