Transition Anxiety

2 years ago by octopus_ink to c/politicalmemes

Damage 41 points 2 years ago

Interesting how there's more hate for MtF than FtM

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jayk 51 points 2 years ago

I think this is a form of misogyny. FtM aren't taken seriously because they're seen as confused women

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bl_r 30 points 2 years ago

I think its specifically the “women are precious and fragile and need to be protected” form of misogyny, since it explains both hatred towards MtF and the ignoring of FtM

::: spolier cw transphobia As you said, FtM folks are disregarded as confused and mistaken and needing help, needing saving from “gender ideology” and MtF folks are predators, attacking women in bathrooms, and the women must be protected from them. :::

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Viking_Hippie 14 points 2 years ago

::: spolier cw transphobia

You need the content to be on separate lines from the start tag and the end tag, like so:

::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
hidden content
:::

You're spot on otherwise

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TheGrandNagus 24 points 2 years ago

It's because it goes against the conservative conspiracy theory of trans women simply being men in dresses infiltrating womens' public toilets and prisons as a means to harass them.

"And what's your explanation for the existence of FtM trans, then? What's their sinister ulterior motive?" is a question they don't have the answer to, so they straight up pretend FtM doesn't exist. They're conveniently ignored.

It's fundamentally harder to spread fear, uncertainty, and doubt over "women dressed as men" than it is to do it for the inverse.

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TheEntity 16 points 2 years ago

“And what’s your explanation for the existence of FtM trans, then? What’s their sinister ulterior motive?” is a question they don’t have the answer to, so they straight up pretend FtM doesn’t exist.

I mean, in their eyes that would be a woman rising to the superior caste of men for no good reason. We can't have that either!

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TheGrandNagus 8 points 2 years ago

Those people are usually also in denial about treating women worse.

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Soup 11 points 2 years ago

If they don’t recognize FtM as men then they’re seeing them as women and they don’t respect women. They also understand that MtF can look good and believe that, despite seeing them fully as women “at the time of erection”, that they were “tricked into being gay” even if all they saw was a picture on the internet or a trans women on the street. And then they somehow still treat them as women and go out and attack them in ways they’d never do to a man, so clearly they’ve accepted it deep-down. It’s just a big fucking mess that they won’t put any effort into cleaning up.

They need therapy and emotional regulation and instead they have indoctrination, childhood trauma, and two rusty braincells struggling to make any connection with eachother.

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Katana314 4 points 2 years ago

When I went to my Wednesday protest, one troll tried to push ”two genders” and cited a story of a woman getting raped, claiming the assailant was transgender with no hormone changes.

I asked him to explain how his proposed changes to the law might prevent that incident; given that gender expression doesn’t create direct security on bathroom doors. He floundered for a bit, and soon left.

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octopus_ink 13 points 2 years ago

My personal theory on this (with absolutely no negativity directed at anyone at all, and a willingness to be shown I'm wrong) is that FtM pass unnoticed more easily in many scenarios.

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Soup 4 points 2 years ago

Makes sense. A women wearing pants is pretty par for the course and anyone else they’d just call a butch lesbian and, more or less, move on.

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Overconfidentiality 3 points 2 years ago

I suspect you're correct. I'm super jealous as MTF, just on the part of male puberty naturally deepening the voice, wish it worked the other way too.

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HappySkullsplitter 8 points 2 years ago

Because it's just bullshit

It would have to be explained to them that if they're afraid of penises in women's restrooms then they should be equally afraid for the vaginas in male restrooms

Now the misogyny becomes misandry, which just falls apart because it is neither. It is just hate in the form if projecting their own insecurities for their own political gain.

There is no reason for people to suffer because of someone else's insecurities.

Especially when those people are suffering just to serve as a political distraction.

A political distraction that exploits both the trans community and voters by fomenting anti-trans sentiment

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andros_rex 7 points 2 years ago

It’s more just misogyny for us. They don’t see as actual threats, more like confused tomboys. The angle I think they’re working on for us is mental health and concerns about our reproductive capabilities. We are of course “mutilating” our bodies. I could see them banning testosterone treatment because it can harm embryos.

The trans woman they want to kill, the trans men they want to quietly stick in asylums (and maybe kill. maybe just rape)

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franklin 5 points 2 years ago

I mean they can both take my number.

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pointnull 31 points 2 years ago

How come people are more worried about who's fucking who? I mean they're adults and there is consent so tf is ur problem ?

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frunch 16 points 2 years ago

But you forget: Jesus

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 15 points 2 years ago

I'd fuck Jesus.

I like them long haired hippy leftist types.

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Cold_Brew_Enema 10 points 2 years ago

Truly prophetic coming from SatansMaggotyCumFart

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pointnull 4 points 2 years ago

I wish Christians would just ignore the homophobic verses.

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expatriado 8 points 2 years ago

ignore the verses that somehow makes you feel superior? that's the how point of going to church

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photonic_sorcerer 9 points 2 years ago

You must understand: I can't be happy unless everyone thinks exactly like I do.

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MountingSuspicion 2 points 2 years ago

Unironically me, but as a leftist 😭

Literally will not be happy until everyone is chill with queers and unchill with nazis.

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photonic_sorcerer 1 point 2 years ago

Then you have doomed yourself to unhappiness.

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kipo 4 points 2 years ago

Them: Trans people are icky. Kill them all.

That's the whole thing. It doesn't matter that trans people aren't mentioned in the bible. It doesn't matter that the medical science supports gender-affirming and transition-related care. It doesn't matter that trans people almost never have an actual advantage in sports. It doesn't matter that being trans is not a 'social contagion'. It doesn't matter that trans people aren't hurting anyone.

They want to eliminate all trans people. A Montana republican just put up a bill to ban adult trans medical care. That's trans genocide. Trump banning trans youth care nation-wide is trans genocide.

Republicans are fucking Nazis. Straight up.

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technocrit 17 points 2 years ago

Gotta realize that nazis copied from USA, not the other way around.

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PM_Your_Nudes_Please 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that’s something that most history books tend to bury; Before the attack on Pearl Harbor, America had a very active nazi support network. There were pro-nazi rallies in America. There’s a reason America wasn’t getting directly involved in the war, and was only doing the Lend-Lease program to help (profit from) the Allies.

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moonbunny 3 points 2 years ago

Not only that, but I believe Hitler got the concentration camp model from the Native American reservation setup that the US had setup when manifest destiny was in vogue Relevant article

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Gork 9 points 2 years ago

Always trying to distract us with the culture war. The real war is the erosion of democracy and replacement with Authoritarianism. It's happening right before our very eyes.

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whostosay 8 points 2 years ago

But wait, fox news never told you to be mad about that?

You're supposed to be mad that people are doing what makes them happy and it not affecting your life whatsoever.

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avidamoeba 6 points 2 years ago

They were born this way.

::: spoiler /s This is a joke in the context of the joke, obviously one is innate and the other isn't.

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