something something, if 9 people are fine sitting at a table with a Nazi, you have 10 nazis
cut the trash out before it stinks up the whole network
this isn’t Reddit we don’t need bad faith both sides bs
something something, if 9 people are fine sitting at a table with a Nazi, you have 10 nazis
cut the trash out before it stinks up the whole network
this isn’t Reddit we don’t need bad faith both sides bs
if 9 people are fine sitting at a table with a Nazi, you have 10 nazis
Good thing there is no table involved.
both sides
Actually, if you read carefully, you will find that my arguments are against both sides, where the sides are the Stasi and McCarthyists.
That is if my argument was ideological. But it wasn't. It was a technical and practical answer where I consider(ed) whatever ideologies supposedly involved irrelevant.
Monitoring instances and gouging their supposed collective thought, and making decisions based on that in an attempt to appease the masses, will make the job of general purpose instance admins unattainable.
It would be a very effective way for the likes of Reddit to fuck with the Fediverse, actually.
Weekly instance defederation talk loaded with emotional/psychological manipulation, moral grandstanding, and why not, some bullying.
"table with a Nazi" analogies. Linking the Paradox of tolerance wikipedia page for the 345636556th time. The lot.
This may work with instances that like their Stasi or McCarthyist wanna be agents (a.k.a. users) keeping their eyes out for baddies.
For general purpose instances, this will be a great way to make them quit. A desirable outcome for some. I'm not one of them. So, I, and hopefully others, am willing to take the hit and speak out, and state things that some admins may want to state, but don't feel comfortable doing so publicly.
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Weekly instance defederation talk loaded with emotional/psychological manipulation, moral grandstanding, and why not, some bullying.
This is why I log into this instance's account less and less. Every time I come here, there is someone trying to get another instance defederated; usually because they saw a few posts they didn't like from a single community on that instance. Rather than banning that community, they think the whole instance should be defederated.
Also, I think you hit it right on the nose with the bits about McCarthism and the Paradox of Tolerance. It seems the internet has forgot the danger of the Red Scares, and makes me wonder if the left-wing version will be named and taught in classrooms in the future.
Though it would definitely be easy for reddit or alphabet soup agencies to use these kinds of tactics to destabilize competition or hard to control entities, I don't think it is necessary at all. It seems to just be human nature to suppress and dehumanize those we disagree with. It is an easy way to justify what people want to do anyways.
thanks for using Leebra!
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A general purpose instance with no claimed "safe space" offering should only be burdened with instance-level defederation talk when another instance is behaving badly at a technical level, or when its admins are actively involved in, or not actively trying to prevent, spam, brigading, repeat copyright infringement, and stuff like that.
Bad thoughts expressed in text form by individual users shouldn't be ground for such talk, and to create a foray over such an inactive instance is quite self-indulging.
If anything, maybe a couple of previous defederation decisions were taken in haste, and should be reconsidered!
If you're looking for a "safe" instance, there are a couple that should suit you. One of them was already recommended to you.
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